Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] [PATCH] No audio feedback in 0.98 config druid!!!

[Christopher Warner <zanee kernelcode com>]

On Sun, 2003-09-07 at 16:05, Chris Rankin wrote:
>  --- Damien Sandras <dsandras seconix com> wrote:
> > We have a problem here :
> > 
> > - either we apply the patch and people with a low
> > volume (0) will think
> > that it doesn't work
> > - or we keep it and people with a good setup will
> > hear sounds too loud
> > - or finally we add volume sliders in the druid and
> > make it even bigger
> > 
> > I think I prefer the second solution...
> 
> Then maybe you're not understanding the extent of the
> problem? 
> 
> a) Forcing my MIC to 100 via the OSS mixer interface
> was DEAFENING, and that was BEFORE the "5 second grace
> period" expired. After that, gnomemeeting started to
> playback the noise that it had just heard and my
> speakers started SHRIEKING!!!!! This isn't just about
> hearing a noise that is too loud. It is about being
> blasted with a banshee-scream capable of damaging both
> speakers and end-user! (My ears were ringing for the
> rest of the night!)
> 
Right; I agree then later on you say
> 
> d) The OSS interface was adjusting the completely
> wrong mixer device anyway. The correct one was
> actually "AC97 Capture", not "MIC".
> 

Which is incorrect.. "AC97 Capture" is Alsa.. Earlier you mentioned you
had an SBLive card using OSS emulation mode. Obviously that's not the
case, if AC97 was the correct interface. Siply because it's not an OSS
interface. So in all reality it was adjusting the right interface and
before you test you can make sure that devices and interfaces are set
correctly.

> e) It is very arrogant to think that you know more
> about the PC's mixer settings than the user. You
> don't, and never can.
> 
> Since you've obviously never experienced this problem
> for yourself, let me suggest what the only real
> solution can be:
> 1) Rename the "OK" button to "End Test". Do not
> disable it.

It's disabled initially because it's a procedure. If you want immediate
abort, then an abort button would have to be added which 5 seconds later
would be useless if you could End Test... So if anything it should be
renamed to End Test.

> 2) Add a MIC mixer control to the test dialog, and
> invite the user to adjust if if s/he cannot hear
> anything (your third suggestion). Show the user the
> current setting, and leave it there.
> 

Adding to the test dialog seems like a good idea. Send the patches..

> Believe me when I say that your second suggestion is
> NO SOLUTION AT ALL! And that's bitter experience
> talking. Practice, not theory. A voice from the
> trenches.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Chris
> 
> 
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