Re: [GnomeMeeting-devel-list] 1.2 Roadmap - Name Change?

[PUYDT Julien <julien puydt laposte net>]

On dim, 2004-05-23 at 15:25, Damien Sandras wrote:
> - codecs on the form of plugins (thanks to Craig and Robert's work in
> OpenH323 for postincrement.com) 

Dust has to settle, but things look good.

> - WIN32 version (still unsure) but it is progressing slowly

Now if someone could write a video plugin for MOSX, gm would gain a big
number of users (enterprise level).

> - Possibility to compile it without any GNOME dependancy

I thought I had mostly done so ; did I forget anything?

> - No more ILS support

The current ils code has many problems ; lack of support being one:
getting rid of it will allow to close quite a few bug reports on
bugzilla.

> Now, I'm more and more worried about GnomeMeeting's name because :
> 
> - people associate GnomeMeeting to Netmeeting, and Netmeeting is dead.
> Moreover, GnomeMeeting is more than just Netmeeting and will also
> support SIP in the future. So people think GnomeMeeting is a dead
> application just because the new "hype" is Skype or MSN Messenger even
> if GnomeMeeting has the same features...

Netmeeting was bad, it is now bad and dead.

> - people think a webcam is necessary to use GnomeMeeting, they think
> "Skype is for people who want to do voicechat, and GnomeMeeting is for
> people who want to videochat". But that's wrong, GnomeMeeting has just
> more features. I think that the confusion is due to the Netmeeting name.

Probably true.

> - people don't see GnomeMeeting as a Voice Over IP application, or as an
> IP telephony application. I don't know why...

I wonder why too. There has been a stupid news on /. recently on VoIP,
and gnomemeeting wasn't mentioned at all!
(neither in the news, nor the comments!)

> - people think they absolutely need GNOME to run GnomeMeeting, when it
> is not true anymore. If we have a WIN32 version, perhaps the "GNOME"
> part should be removed from the name.

Indeed. I would add that most of the code I took from libgnomeui to
allow a gnome-less gnomemeeting, is going to be in gtk in some future
version: this code will disappear from gnomemeeting, and will just be
gtk calls!

Which leaves the gnome in gnomemeeting to be mostly:
* gnome_help;
* gnome_url_show;
* gnome_app initialization code;
* gnome-vfs (in src/vfakeio*);
* bonobo.

The (future) use of dbus should allow to get rid of even more. It's not
that I don't like gnome (I use it), it's just that kde, xfce and all
freedesktop-compliant desktop users shouldn't be forgotten.

> What do you think? Do you have propositions for a new name?

I propose a spanish word: "tertulia". That is, if spanish speaker don't
come up and say: "Eh, it has more than the meaning you know, and means
<something horrible> too!"

Snark