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Re: [gnome-women] [gcompris-devel] Introducing me and my interest

Hi,
I usually dont top-post but that seems to be the trend in this thread
so sorry about the bungled order.

Kesha, Glad to see another Indian woman in Foss. Welcome!

Could you please not post Roopesh's mail on the list, especially since
he has explicitly said his mail (to you) is off-list, for the second
time. Since you are new, I wanted to let you know that posting
people's private mails to a publicly archived mailing list, without
their permission**, is considered rude. Its is an unwritten rule
(more, an etiquette) that people are expected to abide by.

... and while at it, since you asked here is my zero paise worth:  I
completely agree with Roopesh's opinions. He has explained it well
imho. If your goal is to introduce fellow-students to Foss, you can do
it from within India - find a Gnome project that they are interested
in, organize a bug/hack-fest, join their irc channel (if you want live
help from core-devs) and get started. Most Foss dev's wont be mad at
getting free help :). As for knowing about Gnome, there is a lot of
information online which you can use for your presentations.

Once you have done the above, you'd have also learned to organize,
speak, co-ordinate and manage a group of people, thereby obtaining the
management experience you seek. Hope that helps!

best,
Vid
॥ http://svaksha.com ॥
** IME, the only exception is when someone threatens or abuses you in
private. Then, you should go public.


On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Kesha Shah <kesha shah1106 gmail com> wrote:

Hi Roopesh,

Thank you for your views. Academically, I am bright, but I have realized
that just learning things isolated and small lab codes do not help much. One
should have some experience how large real world codebase are maintained and
worked with with many developers contributing at the same time.

Moreover, my intention is not exactly to learn FOSS and get involved in open
source projects. I already have the basics idea and I am currently a GSoC
student. My main aim for attending this conference is knowing more about
GNOME and get myself involved in Gcompris and introduce my fellow batchmates
and juniors to this fascinating community. We have got a lot of spirit and
enthusiastic students at DA-IICT, but still most of them are not aware, how
to enhance their skills in a better direction. I found this Gnome community
as the best because it provides a lot of options and every interested
student can contribute to the field which he/she likes. Also, I love gnome
for its encouragement of Female developers. I am the only girl from my
university and I know how my friends are ignorant about it and the
difficulties I faced. I also want to learn how large international
conferences are organized and I am interested in getting more experience in
management, so I wish to volunteer there also. In the month of September, we
usually have a seminar in our college to introduce juniors to open source,
gsoc and similar opportunities. I wish to take a session there about GNOME
in particular, if I have enough knowledge about it.

I agree that visas needs to be arranged, and still we have 13 days, its not
too late also. If things get to sort out fast and if I get confirmation for
some financial help as soon as possible , probably by tomorrow, I can start
visa procedure. I have very short time, but if tried, I am sure we can deal
with it and successfully do it in time. Can you please discuss with company
.Waiting for fellow Gnome community members to have their opinion and
response.

Thank you and do reply soon :)

Cheers !

Best Regards,


On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 6:07 PM, roopesh shenoy <shenoy roopesh gmail com>
wrote:


(Taking this off-list again)

Kesha,

I do not deny that attending an international level conference in person
can be a very enriching experience. However there needs to be a cost-benefit
analysis to ensure that you are getting that much in return. Even if I
convince my company to sponsor 50% of your travel costs (and I'm not yet
promising that yet, it's not my decision alone), you still will have to find
rest of it (something like another Rs. 35k) for the flight return tickets.
On top of that, visas need to be arranged, and I don't know whether the
organizers of the conference will help you with that. I see that the GNome
conference is around 13 days away, that leaves a very short window to work
out all the logistics.

If your intention is to learn more about FOSS and getting involved in open
source projects, there are much simpler and cheaper ways to get started.
There should be conferences/fests in India as well that you can attend much
more easily (for e.g. https://wiki.gnome.org/Hackfests/India2013 although
the dates are yet TBC)

Note that I am not trying to discourage you here - it is great that you
are interested in going out of your academics and attending international
conferences. However IMHO, getting basic knowledge does not necessitate you
to bear this expense and go to this kind of a conference, at least not yet.
You can spend a similar budget much more frugally and attend a lot more
software conferences (both open source or otherwise) in India if you ask me.
However I can be wrong too, so I'll wait to see if others have any
interesting perspectives about this - this is why I've taken this mail
off-list.

Do call me on 09663230314, if you feel like speaking about this.


Thanks.


Best Regards,

Roopesh




On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Kesha Shah <kesha shah1106 gmail com>
wrote:


Hi Roopesh,

-Regarding the size of sponsorship, I would be great if I can get travel
support.
-I believe in-person meeting, having interactions and attending will have
a huge impact over webinars.
-Sure. This was one of the things in my mind like adding support to Hindi
and small Hindi alphabet recognization and playing activity.
Also, in the joining different province to make a country activity which
exist now (oops ! I cant recall the name), I also thought of adding Indian
states- this will make small Indian kids recognize different states, where
it is located, how many are there etc.
With a little more effort, if we can include capital of every state that
would also be great !
An actiivity regarding recipes of Indian dishes will also be cool :)
These are few which involves adding activities specific to Indian
audience.

Best Regards,


On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 4:50 PM, roopesh shenoy
<shenoy roopesh gmail com> wrote:


Hey Kesha

Few questions -

- What is the size of sponsorship you are looking for?
- Is it necessary to attend this conference instead of viewing webinars
or using other online media?
- Would you be interested in an internship that involves adding
activities specific to Indian audience to a GCompris fork? (we would
contribute the patches upstream but whether they get accepted or not will
depend on the project owner Bruno)


Thanks.


Best Regards,

Roopesh


On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Kesha Shah <kesha shah1106 gmail com>
wrote:


Hi all,

I am an undergraduate student at Dhirubhai Ambani Institute of
Information
and Communication Technology. I have known the FOSS culture and Open
source
organizations since past 8 months and love it.

I belong to a university, where there are brilliant coders and students
with great potentials, but there are few who have got in-depth
knowledge
about open source, how anyone can become a part of it and there exists
many
misconceptions about it. I have read up how Gnome supports
new contributes and coders and encourages them and I really like it.

This is often considered as a male-dominated field, where hardly women
are
aware of it. To increase the awareness among women in software
development,
hats off to programs like Outreach Program for Women. I was unfortunate
to
hear about it after the deadline elasped and couldn't participate in it
but
fortunate enough to know its hand in hand another program- Google
Summer of
Code and be a part of it.

Amongst the 17 students selected from our university this year, I am
the
only girl student. None of my female batchmates or female seniors
present
at college have got the same opportunity as me. Many of my batchmates,
juniors and friends ask me how do I start. I do explain them to the
best I
can, but still I feel something is lacked and I can't guide them 100%.

I use Gnome and its various softwares. One of them, I feel more
attached
with is GCompris. My younger sister loves it and plays it all day long.
I
have many plans in head for its improvement. I have downloaded its
source
but had got no time to hack upon it due to current project. I plan
working
for it after september and do a full time project for its improvement
and
adding new activities.

I am willing to attend GUADEC 2013 to learn more about Gnome, involve
my
fellow batchmates, junior and friends and also for myself to contribute
to
it. I want to meet this awesome community and wonderful people from it,
but
I am in financial crisis. It would be great if I can get some
sponsership
so that I can attend this conference and bridge the gap.

I am interested in many talks which includes First Step Towards
Contributing, Gnome in Open Source Community, Gnome Outreach from Three
Point zero to Hero,FLOSS community outreaches, Outreach Preogram for
Women-Lessons in Collaboration, Foss & Education. I am also willing to
volunteer, if given an opportunity to come which may smooth the
management
and I can get to help this awesome community :)

I know it has been too long, but thanks for spending you time and
reading
it :)

Best Regards,
--
Kesha Shah.

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