Re: d.g.o/dotplan/schedule outdated!

[Curtis Hovey <sinzui cox net>]

On Wed, 2004-08-11 at 08:32 +1200, Jack Stewart wrote:
> Quoting Christian Neumair <chris gnome-de org>:
> > http://developer.gnome.org/dotplan/schedule/ should point to
> > http://www.gnome.org/start/ with a hint that this page has moved.
> > Unfortunately, I couldn't find it in the web-devel-2 module.
> 
> Can I suggest instead we point it to http://www.gnome.org/start/2.7/#schedule
> instead?  Then, in the future, when a new schedule is updated we change the
> htaccess so d.g.o/dotplan/schedule/ always points to the latest schedule.

As this page is vestigal to the previous site, and was removed from CVS
more than a year ago, I deleted the directory from the server.  Our CVS
update scripts are flawed and do not remove dead content.  The dotplan
section correctly links to the start/unstable/ page.

This is a brutal solution.  I see only two links to the dead section in
the summaries.  I will not change them because they are historical
documents.  I had no difficulty finding the dead page in Google even
though it was ranked lower than the dotplan/ and start/ sections that
point users to the current content.  Google will drop the result when
reindexes and gets a 404.

I'm not aware of an links pointing to the dead section.  If there is
important traffic arriving at that page, then I will add a redirect to
start/unstable/ to htaccess.

> I would also like to suggest we point the 'User' menu item to
> http://www.gnome.org/start/.  As this page says: 
> 
> "This page will end up being the one-stop starting point for GNOME users, new or
> old. It will have user-oriented documentation, links to version-specific
> information, and cool stuff like that. For now, we're just linking to the
> version-specific info for current versions of GNOME."

The link is fine, but the focus of w.g.o is not.  Our global and local
navigation does not match the needs of our visitors, nor the content we
possess. But I digress.  Someone(s) with time to spare (I wish that was
me) needs to get a set us use cases for our sites so we can get the nav
right, sort out our good and bad content, and put out a call for the
content we are missing.

Maybe I can hide under a rock with ether this weekend and update
projects/gwh/ with a tasklist and milestones to focus our efforts.

> I found one of the most frustrating things when I first used the gnome website
> was the fact the the user link went back to the main page all the time...

I'd like to find a place for w.g.o/learn myself.  I think that is more
valuable to users than

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