Re: Web Standards and the new layout

["Curtis C. Hovey" <sinzui cox net>]

All excellent points.


On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 21:39, Brian Kerrick Nickel wrote:
> I've been reviewing the source of the new gnome web pages, and while
> they abide by W3C rules, they are quite aways off from achieving the
> intent of those rules. The fundamental rule to go by is, "If all the
> stylesheets where taken away, would this be a usable document?"
> To point out major problems, I'll go through what should be corrected on
> http://developer.gnome.org :
> 
> First and foremost, the main navigation has been placed at the bottom of
> the page, instead of the top (where it appears), causing an
> accessibility problem for people on lynx, screen-readers, etc. I read
> that this was for the benefit of search engines, but that really isn't
> the best approach.
> 
> The page lack a <h1 />. For this site, the ideal H1 would be the gnome
> icon itself (actually, its alt), along the lines of:
> <h1><a href="http://developer.gnome.org/";><img
> src="/images/gnome-64.png" alt="GNOME Development site" /></a></h1>
> Dropping the image's id and placing the rules on the h1.
> 
> <p class="none"></p> serves on purpose for the document's content and
> should be removed.
> 
> <p class="section">Navigation</p> should be <h3>Navigation</h3> as it is
> in fact a heading. To keep the size the same, h3 { font-size: 100%; }
> will do the job.
> 
> I'm not sure a definition list is the right way to present the link
> list, but creating a new list for each pair is really pointless.
> 
> Now for some nitpicking:
> There is a real overuse of the ID attribute. CLASS is the ideal
> attribute for CSS formatting as it is more general and can be reused.
> This may just be me but I think that whitespace in visible elements
> should be maintained in the code, so all these line breaks in sentences
> should be removed.
> The copyright <div> should be referred to as a footer, as it contains
> more than a copyright.
> 
> 
> 
> I've put examples of what I mean at
> http://www25.brinkster.com/scriptguru/gnome/developer.html and
> http://www25.brinkster.com/scriptguru/gnome/index.html
> 
> The community at http://www.DHTMLCentral.com/forums/ is very good when
> it comes to web standards issues. They would be an excellent group to
> help review and perfect code and accessibility issues (except Tim Scarfe
> really isn't a fan of GTK+, so watch out for him).
> 
> .Brian
> 
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