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If this is no longer the case, then we truely have bigger fish to fry.
CSS layout is then completely out, as is any sort of div type of HTML
layout. Pure tables. Like http://www.redhat.com. I have no problem
dropping back to this strategy if we all agree. But it is old technology
and really no better than the HTML the site currently uses. I was just
trying to be progressive. My Netscape 4 setup is a hack, sure, but it's
almost obsolete. IE/Moz/Opera/Konq/Lynx/Links/AOL/Compuserve... all
function fine and are stable with the current approach.


> Additionally, the single HTML / multiple CSS approach has left us with
less
> optimal pages for the various browsers; Netscape in particular is very
slow
> when scrolling / rendering CSS pages, and it's arguably better to use
table
> layout in its case anyway. This was the point at which I suggested
separate
> HTML for each browser.

While I disagree that Netscape is any slower rendering CSS, I would
agree that the CSS is slightly more restricted than the CSS2 standard.
But it's a valid subset, not a convoluted munge.


> > 2. Place the search box in the upper right corner of the page --
While
> > I'm sure this request comes in the interest of usability (based on
some
> > kind of study recommending all search boxes in the upper right or
> > something) I am completely opposed to cluttering up the top menu
image
> > with a big non-transparent input square.
>
> Why? It makes it very visible and obvious. I don't think 'clutter' is
the
> right word; it certainly breaks the visual peace, but you have to do
that to
> make it obvious. :)

I once had a professor in arch school that said, "Interesting is not the
same as visually stimulating. Nazis," he said, "are interesting but I
wouldn't want to have one."


> > 3. Relocate the foot completely into the top nav bar -- Frankly, I'm
not
> > sure if I understood this last one correctly, so I'm probably not
> > restating it right and won't comment on it further until Jeff
clarifies.
>
> Here's a mockup (done in under 2 mins, okay!):
>
>   http://perkypants.org/misc/gnome-foot-top-bar.png

Ok, so apparently I *did* understand you correctly. ;)

Dude, the whole artistic thrust of the template design is the toe
over-hanging the top menu bar background image! It emphasizes the
foreground and the background nature of the site, grounding the tactile
sidebar to the page while at the same time emphasizing the
environmental, spatial nature of top images. You're on crack if you
think I'm going to concede that one!!

Well, gotta run to work. Catch you all on IRC later...


Steve Hall  [ digitect mindspring com ]