Re: gnome-themes-list Digest, Vol 72, Issue 7

[jose <jose2190 gmail com>]

El vie, 11-06-2010 a las 15:35 +0300, יחזקאל escribió:
> Silvina, you (and I) believe in pluralism, but others do not. Since we
> believe in pluralism, we are not going to try to educate them.
> one of the problems with pluralism is what you do if one of the
> notions you want to give place to, is not ready to recognize or give
> place to any other notion (or, is not pluralistic)? This causes great
> problems in politics, and it may definitely cause serious and painful
> arguments in any community that wishes to give place to different
> people holding different notions and opinions. 
> This is why in many governmental institutions political discussion and
> expression are forbidden. 
> Also, I believe that the way to tolerance is through the ability to
> hold back your opinions and not express them, knowing that opinions
> are not so important as you want to believe they are. The way to free
> speech goes through voluntary silence.
> 
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>           1. Re: Very sad: a serial killer in art.gnome (Silvina de
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>         Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:57:38 -0700
>         From: Silvina de Brum <sdebrum gmail com>
>         To: carlos <cpenas warp es>
>         Cc: gnome-themes-list gnome org
>         Subject: Re: Very sad: a serial killer in art.gnome
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>         Hi:
>         
>         I think that it should be the opposite, a place of respect in
>         which include
>         all ways of thinking. By this I mean, whoever can use the
>         image that they
>         want.
>         
>         Cheers!
>         
>         Silvina
>         
>         
>         
>         On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:09 AM, carlos <cpenas warp es>
>         wrote:
>         
>         > Hello:
>         >
>         > Besides all the shit written in the original message, one
>         thing is true,
>         > there's only one "political biased" background in the
>         art.gnome site (as far
>         > as I browsed). The rest of the backgrounds cannot offend any
>         ideological
>         > concern.
>         >
>         > I think that backgrounds in gnome should be neutral, or
>         "gnome biased" but
>         > never use a political icon, good or bad.
>         >
>         > In this world is very easy to harrass someone only using a
>         piece of cloth
>         > tinted with a bunch of colors. And molested people then to
>         defend themselves
>         > trying to harass their suposed foes. These things should end
>         with someone
>         > drawing parallelism between Hitler and the other side, well
>         this time begins
>         > with, Is the fastest demonstration of the Godwin's law [0] I
>         ever seen
>         > before.
>         >
>         > It happens all over the world, United States flag/eagle is a
>         sign of pride
>         > for some people, an imperialist sign for some others and an
>         invading foe for
>         > others. The palestinian / israel conflict is another good
>         example. Even
>         > Dalai Lama, leader of the budhist religion, one of the most
>         peaceful
>         > religions out there, is considered an evil agitator by the
>         chinese govern.
>         >
>         > I think that art.gnome must remain clean of flags, political
>         or religious
>         > heros / killers , religious signs and things like that, and
>         also this list
>         > should be clean of political debate.
>         >
>         > Silvina de Brum wrote:
>         >
>         >> Hi:
>         >> [snip]
>         >>
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Bravo!, Most excellent concept.

I think from my point of view, pluralism should occur mainly in people
who "lead" in some way the ad hoc decisions such as education, law etc.

I keep saying, great concept ...

"To be discussed between us concepts of liberty, if the brother, the
friend who lives in a supposed democracy, is revolted decisions of
others, freedom now and we do together"

José Pedro Pezzarini
Argentina -