Glad it worked out for you...
A good friend of mine, a long time Ubuntu user, watched me install
Fedora 19 and said "hmm, I might need to give that a try again".
I really miss the minimize button on the window, but at least you
can use a hot key (if you can remember it).
I have a "Linux Keyboard", so I have a "Linux" key, you probably
have a "Windows" key. If you press the Windows key, you can just
start typing, which will minimize the mouse movement for finding the
programs you want to run.
If things are running in a hidden mode (Pidgin does this to me all
the time), press Windows + M and you can see those out of site
applications so that you can open them or kill them :-)
I agree that overall things have been improving.
On 09/09/2013 02:42 PM, Vadim wrote:
Hello, everyone!
I just wanted to share my excitement about Fedora 19 and
Gnome-Shell 3.8. This post is a bit contrary to what I reported
some time ago in another thread concerning "Gnome-Shell degrading
every release", and that is part of the reason I wanted to share
my experience on the list.
So, I switched from Ubuntu 13.04 with Gnome-Shell 3.6 to Fedora 19
with Gnome-Shell 3.8 and have great experience so far. Given that
I am on the same computer that I had GS 3.6 installed on, my
comparison is quite "fair". I do not know however whether it is
due to switching to pure Gnome experience with Fedora or Gnome 3.8
would work the same way under Ubuntu.
1) First, the overall experience with GS is somehow "smoother"
than it used to be. There are still lags time to time for unknown
reason, such that GS would get stuck for several seconds without
responding to anything, but I guess it is, probably, due to JS
doing its job or some other background processes.
The biggest problem here is that whenever the screen is locked,
all extensions are disabled, and reenabled after that. This causes
a significant delay in showing the system after screen lock (I
believe this is the reason, because I did not see that when I had
less extensions installed). I do not see any real reason for
disabling extensions on screen lock. Moreover, I can easily think
of extensions that I would personally want to have enabled when
screen is locked. It should be up to extension how it hides itself
when it is not needed. Disabling/enabling of extensions has
dramatic effect on performance. Why do not you just "freeze" them
if you really want to?
2) Overview:
a) I do not experience any lags with opening Overview the first
time anymore.
b) Overview and other animations perform much better: it used to
be when I press Win-key that it would lag for a bit and show the
final window placement in a second or so without actually
animating windows going there, but now I see quite smooth
animation.
c) I like the new Overview layout. Also, the window placement in
Overview has improved a lot.
d) There is still auto-showing of Overview when the last window
is closed (which is annoying when you, for example, just restart
the only application) but there is an extension to prevent that,
and I saw that this is not the case in GS 3.9 anymore (correct me
if I am mistaken).
One thing to mention here: please move the Apps button in Overview
to the top. I will explain why. For me one of the reasons I did
not like Unity was that when you needed to find an app with the
mouse you would have to make quite a distance with your mouse
cursor to find what are you looking for, just imagine this:
top-left corner to open it, then a tiny icon on bottom-center of
the screen to select category (why would not you put all those
icons on top?), then right part of the screen to select category,
then top-left to click the app etc. That was not the case with GS.
3) Message tray with "pressure" is amazing compared to what it
used to be. I do not need any extension preventing showing Message
Tray anymore.
The two problems were solved in one move: I would not accidentally
open Message Tray when I do not want to, but I can instantly
without waiting open it when I need to. Now there is only one
problem left: sometimes I need to interact with icons in Message
Tray several times in a row, such as opening their menus and
choosing several commands. That would be awesome if it would stay
open until I actually click outside of it (not when, for example,
I right-click icon and open its menu). So, I still need Top Icons
extension.
4) Files (Nautilus). I reported in that other thread big problems
with Nautilus being somehow laggy. The problems were so big that I
had to switch to another file manager (I used Dolphin with all its
Gnome-incompatibility). This is not the case for me anymore. It
performs quite well: there are no lags when I focus Nautilus
window etc. It is more than usable now.
nautilus-terminal is also back for me! Just a tip: Nautilus has
this weird behaviour that when you press slash "/" it would focus
the path line and enter the slash there. This "feature" prevents
from entering the slash in nautilus-terminal! But you can easily
fix this.
There are some other little annoyances that I had to overcome, but
everything has been solved somehow. Examples:
- When you choose background, there is no option to browse for a
file. Change it directly in dconf-editor (set
org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri) or put your background
in ~/Pictures.
- There is no easy way to change Metacity theme anymore. Change it
in dconf-editor (set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences theme) and
make sure your Metacity theme is in /usr/share/themes not in
~/.themes (the latter does not work for some reason for many
themes: I saw a bug report about that some time ago, so I knew
what to do when my theme in ~/.themes would not be applied -- just
move it /usr/share/themes and check permissions).
- New weather app as well as the Weather extension on
extensions.gnome.org offers big airport weather only (Norwegian
forecast or something) and moreover it is often way off: so, I
just git pull https://github.com/canek-pelaez/gnome-shell-extension-weather.git,
which is old nice version of the extension that now has searching
support (so, you do not need to go to Yahoo whether to find your
city's ID).
Overall, many of the problems I reported for GS 3.6 were solved
for me in GS 3.8.
So, to sum up, all I wanted to say now is: "No! Gnome-Shell does
not degrade with every release." Old problems are being solved,
some new are introduced. But overall for me Gnome 3.8 has matured
a lot compared to previous versions.
Vadim
Developer of YAWL extension.
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