Re: mutter: reduce server grabs for window creation
- From: Owen Taylor <otaylor redhat com>
- To: Sam Spilsbury <sam endlessm com>
- Cc: gnome-shell-list gnome org, Daniel Drake <drake endlessm com>
- Subject: Re: mutter: reduce server grabs for window creation
- Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 15:28:53 -0500
On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 17:03 -0200, Sam Spilsbury wrote:
One thing that definitely should be noted is that we still have a server
grab over everything when this code is called from
meta_screen_manage_all_windows(). From a brief look, it appears to me
that this happens *after* we initialize Javascript, set up signal
connections, etc - so probably the only reason that your patch works for
you is that the driver's internal swap-buffers thread isn't doing
anything during initialisation.
Is there any need for having a server grab with a large scope here in that case?
The origin of the grab is lost in the deeps of time - the grab around
creating all windows was added in one of the first commits to Metacity
with the comment
/* Must grab server to avoid obvious race condition */
But I'm not sure what the "obvious" race condition is or was - maybe
simply trying to avoid having to code for vanished windows
in meta_window_new(). The grab never included the selection for
SubstructureRedirect/SubstructureNotify on the root window - that is
simply done first and stray DestroyNotify, etc, events would simply
be ignored.
The reason that XGetWindowAttributes() is separated out and passed to
meta_window_with_attrs() is that the compositor code used to handle
X windows that didn't have a corresponding MetaWindow (see commit
d538690b) - so meta_window_new_with_attrs() could be eliminated at this
point.
I haven't had a chance to look too closely at the code, but perhaps we
are assuming that the results of an XQueryTree will stay constant
during initialisation. In that case, the only thing you care about is
windows being either created or destroyed before you've selected for
CreateNotify, ReparentNotify and DestroyNotify on the root window. So
really, the only thing that is necessary is to have the server grab
during XQueryTree and XSelectInput. Then you need to ostensibly
"manage" all the windows and add them to the internal stack. After
that, you can assume that any created or destroyed windows are handled
as creations or destructions that occur during the event loop and not
initialisation.
As far as I can tell, the code would simply be fine without initial
large-scope server grab.
This makes me less enthusiastic about the approach - we aren't avoiding
calling application code with a server grab, we're just not doing it in
the case that was causing a problem.
Other than that, I don't have large-scale objections to the patch other
than the inherent bug-introducing potential of moving things around in
meta_window_new_with_attrs(). I would certainly wonder if we could
simply move the ungrab up earlier in the function and fix up anything
in class a) and b) described above.
If I recall correctly (now that I've refreshed my memory on this), you
only need grabs for:
1. Querying the tree and selecting for events
2. Doing the XGetWindowAttributes, XCreateWindow, XReparentWindow,
XAddToSaveSet dance.
One caveat with #2 is that if XGetWindowAttributes fails it means that
the window was destroyed - but you still need to keep it around in the
stack until you get a DestroyNotify for it because its possible that
there were already requests made relative to it.
If Mutter gets a ConfigureRequest (etc.) for a window it doesn't
recognize, it will just ignore it, so it should be fine to drop windows
that have vanished on the floor. The only flaw I can see with this - the
current approach - is that it isn't completely robust against XID reuse.
You could fix that on startup with a grab across /everything/, but
mostly the problems would still be there later in operation (and are
inevitably there for any WM.)
Have you created a torture test for your app - something that repeatedly
creates a new window and after a short random delay destroys it?
I have one I used for debugging the (notorious) stacking bugs in
compiz here: https://code.launchpad.net/~smspillaz/+junk/stackingtest
It creates 50 windows at once every second.
That sounds like something that could be useful.
(Hmm, it's probably tricky with X server scheduling, kernel scheduling,
etc, to really test all the possibilities for when a window could be
destroyed with respect to window manager operation reliably.)
- Owen
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