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Re: Active Applications list

I think that the solution is simple.
Write the code in such a way that the Application Well can be placed in the Activities menu as in the top (or bottom) panel, or any other location on the screen (I don't know if this is difficult?).
Create two or more designs and do some usability testing.
If the average user prefers the Application Well in the Activities menu: choose that design. If the average user prefers the Application Well somewhere else on the screen: choose that design.

Jeroen




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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Active Applications list (Alex Launi)
  2. Re: Active Applications list (Apoorva Sharma)
  3. Re: Active Applications list (jhs jsschmid de)
  4. Re: Active Applications list (iain)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:26:22 -0400
From: Alex Launi <alexlauni gnome org>
To: Florian M?llner <florian muellner gmail com>
Cc: gnome-shell-list gnome org
Subject: Re: Active Applications list
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On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Florian M?llner <florian muellner gmail com
> wrote:

> Multiple independent people want multiple different things. Of course,
> the solution is to pick what _you_ want, right?
>

They have different solutions to the same problem, their solutions might not
be right but the means of addressing the problem has been to dismiss it as
not a problem.

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--Alex Launi
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 22:10:27 -0500
From: Apoorva Sharma <appi2012 gmail com>
To: Sean Dunwoody <sean_dunwoody yahoo com>
Cc: "gnome-shell-list gnome org" <gnome-shell-list gnome org>,    Nick
    <soapduk gmail com>
Subject: Re: Active Applications list
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I think that it's important to recognize that even the iOS, which used 
to have a "zoom out to switch apps" behavior, now has an application 
switcher. The reality is that no matter how unique the desktop 
environment, sone sort of window list/application list is needed.

On Jun 24, 2010, at 11:28 AM, Sean Dunwoody <sean_dunwoody yahoo com> 
wrote:

> I still haven't seen a valid reason not to integrate a window list 
> of some form or other, I know that Gnome 3.0 is meant to be a 
> reinvention of gnome but I can understand why people would be angry, 
> every OS I can think of has an easy way of changing applications 
> (often involving a window list) that can be accessed easily without 
> having to 'zoom out' of what your doing and trying to find the 
> application you want . . . which can be rather difficult if you have 
> a lot of applications open at once, and also it can be very 
> distracting, there have been many a time where this has broken my 
> workflow, and whilst I mostly use alt + tab I find it frustrating 
> the way that the alt+tab in gnome 3 handles multiple windows of the 
> same application.
>
>
> From: Milan Bouchet-Valat <nalimilan club fr>
> To: Nick <soapduk gmail com>
> Cc: gnome-shell-list gnome org
> Sent: Thu, 24 June, 2010 11:53:29
> Subject: Re: Active Applications list
>
> Le jeudi 24 juin 2010 ? 22:19 +1200, Nick a ?crit :
> > I propose some kind of active apps/tasks list that is displayed at 
> all
> > times. I get the feeling that the developers want to keep the
> > panel/task bar (whatever it is being called) clutter free, so they 
> are
> > not going to want program names splattered across it. I think the
> > solution would be to have smallish icons of the active apps/tasks
> > displayed next to the activities button.
> Hi and thanks for trying the Shell and reporting. This issue has been
> discussed many times already on this list though, and designers and
> developers don't have the time to answer again an again the same
> concerns.
>
> To be short: it's at the core or the Shell's design to work with the
> overview rather than an application list. Though the Shell has a 
> support
> for optional extensions, so if somebody steps in and provides an
> application list extension, this feature will be available for people
> who feel the need for it. But not by default.
>
> Sorry to be quick, but if you want more details, see the list archives
> for the last few months:
> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-shell-list/
> and be sure to read the design documents too:
> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design
>
>
> Regards
>
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 06:35:19 -0000 (UTC)
From: jhs jsschmid de
To: "Giovanni Campagna" <scampa giovanni gmail com>
Cc: Johannes Schmid <jhs jsschmid de>, Nick <soapduk gmail com>,
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Hi!

> By the way, in this discussion I posted actual code (not perfect yet,
> but working), not mockups, design questions or rants.

Yes, I know. I wasn't referring to you in that case and I very much
appreciate that you created an extension that will probably fit some users
need. I haven't tried it yet though, will probably do once atk builds
again in jhbuild...

Regards,
Johanes



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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:09:17 +0100
From: iain <iain openedhand com>
To: Sean Dunwoody <sean_dunwoody yahoo com>
Cc: gnome-shell-list gnome org, Nick <soapduk gmail com>,    Johannes
    Schmid <jhs jsschmid de>
Subject: Re: Active Applications list
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On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 19:13 +0000, Sean Dunwoody wrote:
> Lots of people are talking about a concern they have with the design
> of Gnome Shell (for valid reasons in my opinion) and your basically
> telling them to button up because your not changing the design . . .I
> didn't think this was what open source was about.

Open source means you have the source code.
Feel free to do whatever you want with it.




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