Re: [gnome-db] GRAND MASTER PLAN
- From: linas linas org (Linas Vepstas)
- To: Derek Neighbors <derek gnue org>
- Cc: msevior physics unimelb edu au, andru treshna com, gnome-db-list gnome org, charlie xwt org, gnucash-devel gnucash org, gnome-office-list gnome org, timl treshna com, linas linas org, silvanadimartino tin it
- Subject: Re: [gnome-db] GRAND MASTER PLAN
- Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:33:32 -0600
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 04:48:15PM -0700, Derek Neighbors was heard to remark:
> So much of what is discussed is already do able in GNU Enterprise. I have
> not entered into the discussion as I know Linas, Dru and Rodrigo are all
> familiar with GNUe so I suspect they have their reasons.
I'll profer a couple of reasons (and these are *not* criticisms of
gnue, just general comments):
-- working out the c-to-python-and-back-again bindings are scary,
what not with the gtk and scheme event loops already vying for
dominence.
-- Install; repeatable, servicable user-interface experience.
Gnucash has already taken a pounding for being too hard to
install. Most of our bugs are cross-interface bugs, where
things work only if version x of this is installed, and
the obvious work arounds fail due to version conflicts.
We're ciritcally dependent on obsolete interfaces, e.g. guppi.
Another example, gconfd-1 vs. gconfd-2 is biting us these days.
No fault of our own; we don't use gconfd. Its simply that
gtkhtml uses gconf and lord knows why. And scheme/slib/g-wrap
have changed in incompatible ways for reasons unbeknownst to us;
these changes only serve to make gnucash unstable, unusable.
I'm scared of gnue mostly because I perceive it to be a moving
target, with its own set of dependencies and infrastructre.
In the same way, I suspect enterprise java beans have a lot of
these functions as well. But I figure that ejb is a platform
that will never become stable, debuggable, supportable.
(crap the only java app I use on a daily basis cannot even communicate
with the window manager correctly; it creates insane window sizes.
wtf I've complained about this, but that bug will never be fixed.
This is not a criticism of gnue, but is an anti-illustration of what
I mean by "stable debuggable supportable". And yes, its probably Sun's
fault.)
--linas
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