Re: [gnome-love] Does gnome hate me and want me to go away?
- From: "Jaap A. Haitsma" <jaap haitsma org>
- To: "Hal Ashburner" <hal ashburner gmail com>
- Cc: gnome-love <gnome-love gnome org>
- Subject: Re: [gnome-love] Does gnome hate me and want me to go away?
- Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 08:27:44 +0200
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:46 AM, Hal Ashburner <hal ashburner gmail com> wrote:
So I've just found (Ken & friends work?)
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/reports/patch-report.cgi?product=gnome-utils&patch-status=none
Eleven unreviewed patches for the screenshot applet.
Literally half of these are unreviewed after more than 2 years(!)
This seems to me like pretty good evidence that the maintainers of
"gnome-utils" haven't got the time required to look after the package
properly. I'm sure they don't mean to be so rude to the people who spent
their time fixing bugs but ultimately intentions alone don't get things
done.
Does it make sense to break gnome-utils up into individual packages for each
app or applet to make the workload for each smaller?
How can we get some fresh faces onto this to get things happening again?
Does gnome have a process to identify maintainers who've been snowed under
by real-life and need someone to take over?
A thousand days for a patch being unreviewed is really just not in any way,
shape or form anything like acceptable for a project such as GNOME that
wants volunteers to contribute their time and expertise. The overhead of
creating a patch is really quite high as it is, one would be tempted to
think dark thoughts if one survives JHBuild/garnome as well as the codebase
of interest, the RCS tools, testing etc only to feel the effort would have
been better spent elsewhere.
If the above isn't possible should GNOME advertise that people are wasting
their time fixing bugs in certain packages so as not to lead them on? Please
note I'm saying nothing about the quality of these patches (or even my own),
they could be abysmal. However not to at least acknowledge receipt is just
plain, old-fashioned, downright rude.
The love has clearly gone missing*. So gnome-love, what say you all?
Hal
*I'm not saying that's anyone's fault or that they're nasty, malicious or
anything silly like that. I'm sure they're kind to children and animals and
like contributors etc. These things happen. Fixing them to make people feel
like their work and time is treated with just a little respect would be some
love from GNOME that would likely be reciprocated by newly arrived hackers.
Hal,
What I normally do if one of my patches doesn't get reviewed is sent
the maintainers directly an email with the question if they can review
my patch. Usually they've just missed the bug report, because they get
to much bugmail. After sending them the personal note the bug usually
gets picked up
Jaap
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