Window Frame Size

[Alan LaViolette <alan globalfoo net>]

I am working on positioning of a window that I want to control exactly 
to location it show up on the screen.  To do this I need the frame size, 
and I can not get this.  I have looked at the function 
gtk_window_get_frame_size in the current gtk+ CVS.  I used this code and 
it still did not return the correct frame size.  All of these functions 
return the same size.

gdk_window_root_origin
gdk_window_origin
gdk_window_position
XGetWindowAttributes
XGetGeometry

When I use xwininfo it it shows a relative upper-left and upper-right. 
I could use these maybe but I looked at the source for xwininfo and it 
uses XGetWindowAttributes the exact same way I do, and still nothing.  I 
have noticed that 6-7 times that I do the display it will display the 
correct info I need.  then it will change and not be correct the next 
time I show the window.

do I need to do something after a gtk_widget_show to get the correct 
size of the window.

How do I get frame size. Is this a question I should direct to the 
sawfish or X mailing lists.

-Alan