Re: gtkhtml

[Christian Schaller <uraeus linuxrising org>]

Matthew wrote:

> Let's go over these thought-provoking perls of wisdom offered down to us from
> the cofounder of Helix, the people that are deciding our future:
>
> >Bzzzzzzt.  Three wrong assertions.  Please try again, thank you for playing.
>
> Well said.  You make several good points here.
>
> >Saying "not linking to gnome-libs makes it faster" is what most
> >western cultures have defined as bullshit.
>
> Bravo, Federico.  Nothing like a well-placed profanity to drive your counter
> argument home.  Oh wait, there is no counter argument there.  My bad.
>
> >Then the earlier programmer would have applications that depended on
> >Motif that depended on XT that depended on X that depended on Motif
> >that depended on XT that depended on X that depended on Motif that
> >depended on XT that depended on X that depended on Motif that depended
> >on XT that depended on X that depended on Motif that depended on XT
> >that depended on X that depended on Motif that depended on XT that
> >depended on X that depended on Motif that depended on XT that depended
> >on X that depended on Motif that depended on XT that depended on X
> >that depended on Motif.
>
> This one is probably my favorite.  Just killing time before the IPO?

Federico was just replying to statements he found provocative and unfounded,
while I agree that
his response wasn't very diplomatic, it is hard to claim a moral superiority
when replying in the same
vein-

> Folks, it's very obvious to me that our arguments are not being heard.
> Helix, the "real" Gnome, has shifted their policy from ignoring us to
> becoming outright beligerant.  This is a joke to them.  Sign me up for those
> commercial services, fellas.  I want to PAY for my abuse!

This is a bit on the inflamatory side isn't it? After reading recent posts of
Ettore and Steven it seems to me they are both willing to take this forward in a
constructive manner, and cooperate on making gtkhtml compilable both with and
without the added gnome-functionality.

As for who the real GNOME is, please Mathew I expected better than this from
you. While a lot of hackers work for Helix, there are more who are not.

> Question:
> What's going to happen to your precious GtkHTML when Gecko is ready for Prime
> Time?  Or if Operasoft is really going to "widgetize" Opera?

There is a couple of issues here:
a) gtkhtm is LGPL which means people can use it with their GPL projects without
worrying about
about license issues.
b) gtkhtml isn't meant to be a gecko competitor, it is meant as a light HTMl
widget to be used in projects which are in need of such.  Nautilus for instance
will be using gecko as its primary internet browsing engine and gtkhtml to view
lighter information such as  GNOME documentation.

As for Opera, please, it is not free software, it is not even free beer
software.

Christian