FW: Very Nasty Gnome bug

["Roger Vaughn" <rvaughn pobox com>]

The "X" cursor isn't a bug - I ran into this one myself a couple months ago.
The problem is the icE Enlightenment theme.  For some reason, there is only
one cursor included with the theme, and the desktop cursor isn't it!

Yeah, blowing away your config *seems* to make it work, 'cause you have to
reconfigure E, and it's left with the cursors from the default theme.  But
next logon session, and back to "X"....

To fix this, I just copied the cursors from one of the other themes into icE
and edited the theme definition files accordingly.  Now I get all the little
cursors I could ever want.

rog

> -----Original Message-----
> From: michael@cs.ucl.ac.uk [mailto:michael@cs.ucl.ac.uk]On Behalf Of
> Michael Rogers
> Sent: Monday, May 31, 1999 4:05 PM
> To: gnome-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: Very Nasty Gnome bug
>
>
> Vidiot wrote:
> >
> > While attempting to reset GNOME so that it doesn't use that
> damn X cursor, gnome
> > managed to screw itself royally.
>
> Actually, it sounds like you screwed it royally by deleting your config
> files. But carry on.  :)
>
> > In order to see if the dredded X cursor was caused by a gnome
> config problem,
> > I removed all of my home .gnome* directories.  That wasn't it.
> Guess it must
> > be an enlightment thing, so I'll have to blow away the .enlightenment
> > directory next.  After reconfiguring the panel to put back the
> stuff that was
> > removed :-(, I got out of gnome because of other stuff I was working on.
> > When I restarted X, gnome complained about another panel
> running and did I
> > still want to start it.  I said no.  Bad choice.  Now I had no
> panel at all.
> > OK, so I'll just get out of gnome and restart it.
> >
> > Here comes the gnome configuration fuckup...  if you have no
> panel, you have
> > no way to log out of gnome.  No menu option with the middle or
> right buttons.
> > No place at all in which the user can get out of gnome.  Oops,
> dumb, real
> > dumb.  The default configuration of gnome MUST have another way
> to get out
> > if the panel is not there, or a menu option to restart the
> panel.  Either
> > way, the user is fucked.
>
> Ctrl-Alt-Backspace should kill your X server in an emergency. However,
> if you still have the Gnome root menu it's not an emergency yet. Pull up
> a new terminal and type "save-session --kill". This tells the Gnome
> session manager to tidy everything up and exit. It's the same command
> that the Log Out menu option uses.
>
> BTW, to solve your X cursor problem, first try a different Enlightenment
> theme and see if that helps.
>
> > If there is a way to get out (without doing ctl-alt-F1 and
> killing the jobs),
> > I couldn't find it.  That means newbies to gnome aren't going
> to know how to
> > either.  I'm a newbie to gnome and its many problems.
>
> I agree, this should be documented if it isn't already. These are the
> things newbies want to know - how to save yourself in an emergency,
> without making things worse by pulling the plug out of the wall...
>
> > I'm almost ready to spend the time getting OpenWindows working again.
>
> Wow, it's serious.  :)
>
> > The main reason why...  I can't configure the desktop the way I
> want when it starts.
> > With olvwm, I could tell it, via a couple of files, to start certain
> > applications and position them in a particular virtual area of
> the desktop
> > and exactly where within that virtual area. Yes, you are
> supposed to be able
> > to tell gnome to remember the locations when you log out of
> gnome.  I've done
> > the Remember States->All Attributes for each of the
> applications, and did a
> > save current setup when logging out.  But when I restart gnome,
> all of the
> > applications pile into virtual area 0 and place themselves top
> center.  Not
> > only were the applications not put back in the virtual area
> from whence they
> > came, they weren't even placed in the right area of the virtual
> area.  This
> > feature just plain does not work.
>
> You might want to try a different window manager. Has anyone else got
> this feature working with E and multiple desktop areas?
>
> > If a gnome programmer has gotten it to work,
> > I'd sure like to know how and I'm sure every other user of
> gnome would like
> > to know as well.
>
> I'm working on a simple Gnome window manager which will remember window
> positions. Any offers of help gladly received.  :)
>
>
> Michael Rogers
>
>
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