RE: GNOME Summary, July 18-25

["Fox, Kevin M" <KMFox mail bhi-erc com>]

Where is gconf being discussed? I have been playing around with a registry
idea recently as well and have come up with a fiew ideas past what is stated
in the below mentioned urls.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Havoc Pennington [mailto:hp@redhat.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 12:12 PM
> To: gnome-announce-list@gnome.org; gnome-list@gnome.org
> Subject: GNOME Summary, July 18-25
> 
> 
> 
> This is the GNOME Summary for  July 18-25.
> 
> =============================================================
>   Table of Contents
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>  1)  gnome-core and gnome-pim
>  2)  Gnomba
>  3)  GnomeHack release
>  4)  GConf
>  5)  GTK+/Gnome Application Development goes to press
>  6)  If you have a cvs.gnome.org account, read this
>  7)  Dax Kelson RPM updates
>  8)  WM Spec churning along
>  9)  Report from IBM conference
>  10)  Hacking Activity
>  11)  New and Updated Software
> 
> 
> ==============================================================
> 
>  1)  gnome-core and gnome-pim
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> New releases of gnome-core and gnome-pim, updating your 
> calendar, panel, and so on. 
> Here's the announce, describing where to get them and what 
> the changes are:
> 
>  
> http://www.gnome.org/mailing-lists/archives/gnome-announce-lis
> t/1999-July/0035.shtml
> 
> ==============================================================
> 
>  2)  Gnomba
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> A GNOME Samba browser appeared:
> 
>  http://www.pobox.com/~gandalf/proj/gnomba 
>  
> Looks nice, check it out. I think these guys have delinquently failed
> to update the software map, however. ;-) Nudge, nudge, guys.
> 
> ==============================================================
> 
>  3)  GnomeHack release
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> If you haven't tried GnomeHack, try it out. It works pretty well. I've
> played several games without seeing bugs. (Of course, I suck and die
> pretty fast. :-)
> 
>  http://www.xmission.com/~andersen/erik/gnomehack/gnomehack.html 
> 
> It's definitely nicer than moving a little @ character around.
> 
> Oooh, I just noticed that Erik is *also* a software map
> delinquent. Bad Erik. ;-)
> 
> ==============================================================
> 
>  4)  GConf
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> I'm playing around with a new configuration system (a replacement for
> libgnome/gnome-config.h). This is like the Windows "registry," only
> without the bad parts. :-)
> 
> If you're curious, look at gconf/doc/thoughts.txt in CVS; you 
> might also be interested in 
> 
>   http://www.debian.org/~wakkerma/config6/
> 
> Not too much code yet. It will be Gnome-independent, thus the name
> "GConf" instead of "GnomeConf".
> 
> Oh, the initial thread about this starts here:
> 
>   
> http://www.gnome.org/mailing-lists/archives/gnome-devel-list/1
> 999-July/0121.shtml
> 
> thoughts.txt in CVS is a revision of my mailing list post.
> 
> ==============================================================
> 
>  5)  GTK+/Gnome Application Development goes to press
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> Several people have asked when my book is coming out; the pages were
> finalized and sent to the printer on Friday. So, it will take about a
> month to print and ship to stores. That is, expect the book in late
> August, or thereabouts. The final page count was over 500 pages, a
> good bit more than the planned 350; so this is a weighty tome on
> Gnome. I promise it's only 50% filler. :-) (just kidding)
> 
> ==============================================================
> 
>  6)  If you have a cvs.gnome.org account, read this
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> A post from Elliot about using this machine:
> 
>   
> http://www.gnome.org/mailing-lists/archives/gnome-devel-list/1
> 999-July/0120.shtml
> 
> ==============================================================
> 
>  7)  Dax Kelson RPM updates
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> Bleeding-edge RPMs, read the announce here:
> 
>   
> http://www.gnome.org/mailing-lists/archives/gnome-list/1999-Ju
> ly/0594.shtml
> 
> ==============================================================
> 
>  8)  WM Spec churning along
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> Work seems to be progressing on the Gnome/KDE/etc. window manager
> extension spec; at least, major players are talking without any flames
> so far. You can read the archives here:
> 
>   http://www.gnome.org/mailing-lists/archives/wm-spec-list/1999-July/
> 
> Please stick to lurking unless you're very sure you should post, we
> want to keep the list on-track and undistracted.
> 
> ==============================================================
> 
>  9)  Report from IBM conference
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> The following report was written by Peter Teichman 
> <pat4@acpub.duke.edu>, who just returned
> from the GNOME booth at the IBM Solutions '99 conference:
> 
> I have just returned from a week in Las Vegas, where IBM's Solutions
> '99 conference was being held. Nat Friedman was there from Sunday
> until Thursday, and Miguel de Icaza was there for Wednesday and
> Thursday.
> 
> Solutions '99 was a conference for developers. The feel was definitely
> one of supporting strong technologies, rather than marketing. IBM had
> given a booth to the Free Software Foundation and the GNOME project,
> and we went out to man the booth. The FSF was represented by Tim Ney,
> who some of you may have met at other conferences recently.
> 
> It was very interesting to see IBM's stance toward Free Software and
> GNU/Linux - it looks as if they are actually doing things right. They
> are working on native ports of all their major applications, and
> appear to be genuinely trying to release the source to anything they
> can. Moreover, they are trying *not* to crowd the market. I was
> initially skeptical about IBM's involvement in the community, but
> talking in depth with several of their employees leads me to believe
> that they have the right ideas about how to be involved in the
> community.
> 
> The main focus of our booth was giving GNOME demos and educating
> people about the technologies involved in the project. Since this was
> a conference for developers, most people were very interested in the
> work that has gone into our infrastructure.
> 
> The biggest hits appeared to be Bonobo, the Canvas, and our reliance
> on XML tools. The XML people from IBM (and their AlphaWorks projects)
> were there in full force, and they seemed impressed that we have
> standardized all our file formats on XML. Another big hit was found in
> Gill, our rendering program for the World Wide Web Consortium's
> Scalable Vector Graphics. We ended up showing Gill off quite a bit.
> 
> Overall, I think we interested many people in the GNOME project. I
> think it was good to get the word out at a major industry conference
> like this one, especially one where the conference attendees were
> looking toward possible GNU/Linux ports of their software. Everyone we
> talked to who was in that position now understands the strengths of
> the GNOME framework for developing applications.
> 
> On Tuesday, Nat and I made the rounds through the conference floor. We
> ended up evangelizing Free Software to the other software vendors. To
> my surprise, no one there blew us off. Some companies had already been
> considering the model, and some seemed interested once we described it
> a bit. I don't think that we changed any minds, but we certainly made
> headway. And these were some of the largest software vendors around:
>  
>   http://www.solutions99.ibm.com/html_docs/exhibitors.html
> 
> Wednesday afternoon there was a Linux BOF, which Nat and I attended. I
> put in a plug for the Free Software Foundation's booth afterward, and
> many people picked up our literature. I was hoping that some people
> would come by the next day and see a GNOME demo, at very least.
> Several groups sounded like they were interested in opening the source
> to their products, and I also wanted them to come by for discussion.
> 
> We did end up having increased traffic the next day, and showed off
> much of GNOME, like we had done the days before. It was nice for us
> that this was a developers conference, as they were more interested in
> the technical parts of GNOME that we consider so important. We were
> able to talk more about our framework for building applications,
> rather than just demo the Panel and existing apps.
> 
> Miguel gave a talk later on Thursday, where he described the major
> structural parts of GNOME. He complained afterward that the talk
> wasn't as funny as he would have liked, but I thought it was the best
> technical introduction to the GNOME framework that I had heard.
> 
> The overall feel of the conference was that GNU/Linux and the GNOME
> environment are finally making their way into larger markets. IBM
> looks to have the right idea about their work in the area, and I think
> it is good for them to be an ally.
> 
> Peter Teichman
> pat4@acpub.duke.edu
> 
> ==============================================================
> 
>  10)  Hacking Activity
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> Module Score-O-Matic:
> 
>   31 ggdb
>   25 gimp
>   24 gnumeric
>   23 gnome-libs
>   15 mc
>   15 gtk--
>   15 gtk+
>   15 gnome-ddruid
>   15 gnome-applets
>   13 gill
>   13 gconf
>   12 web-devel-2
>   12 gnomeicu
>   11 nethack
>   11 goose
>   10 gxsnmp
>   10 gnome-debug
>   10 gnome-core
>   10 gmf
>    9 gnome-filer
>    9 bonobo
>    8 dryad
> 
> User Score-O-Matic:
> 
>   53 martin
>   25 spapadim
>   20 mmeeks
>   18 msw
>   18 hp
>   16 sopwith
>   15 kenelson
>   14 hvr
>   13 sipan
>   12 vinc
>   12 karsten
>   12 hestgray
> 
> Notice the gnome-ddruid module, which is a spiffy disk 
> partition editor msw is working on. 
> It's quite nice. 
> 
> There's still a bunch of work on assorted IDE/debugger thingies, I
> still haven't tried them. They must be nearing usability, I'd think.
> 
> 
> 
> ==============================================================
> 
>  11)  New and Updated Software
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>   
>   Mosquito
>   gvsy
>   GSnes9x
>   gaspell
>   Gnomba
>   GNOME Weather
>   GnomeTranscript
>   vsa
>   GnoMail
>   GnomeHack
>   gsrnd
>   gx10
>   teleGNOME
>   gproc
>   GnomePM
>   Glacier
>   GPeriodic
>   GFlash
>   Trinity
>   gquest
>   GIntMon
>   irssi
>   gnofin
>   atilo
>   gaddr
>   ghost-edit
>   gdiary
>   gphoto      
>   screem        
>   gchbkgrd
>   
> Smart-ass comment: a couple authors have entries in the software map
> with no web page, no tarball, no author's email address, no version
> number, indeed, no information whatsoever. :-) You know who you
> are. The map entries aren't very useful if they don't point to any
> software. :-)
> 
> ==============================================================
> =============
> 
> Until next week - 
> 
> Havoc
> 
> 
> 
> 
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