Re: gtk+ and gtk-engines slow

[bratsche dfw net]

I'm starting on a capplet for imlib_config right now. I suspect it
probably can't make it into GNOME 1.0 because of the freeze unless someone
thinks it's really important.

On Sat, 23 Jan 1999, Marcus Brubaker wrote:

> Yeah, I've used it.  I was refering to a proper capplet.  I would just
> write/modify one myself, but I'm at work, and wouldn't know what I was
> doing anyway.
> 
> On Sat, 23 Jan 1999 mozart@windsor.igs.net wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Ever try the program imlib_config ? it works great, and what a bonus, a
> > pretty interface, yay! :)
> > 
> > On 23-Jan-99 Marcus Brubaker wrote:
> > > I'm probably sticking my nose where it doesn't belong (it wouldn't be
> > > the
> > > first time) but it's a shame to see the both of you, both exceptional
> > > programmers that are obviously quite stubborn, fueding about something
> > > like this.  I'm inclined to side with raster in that hosing the cache
> > > arbitrarily in such a way is a bad idea, but the happy medium is to set
> > > a
> > > *default* in a config file to turn Imlib caching on or off.  I think
> > > defaulting it to on is a good idea and then those 486 users that can't
> > > handle the cache can turn it off by hand until someone writes a capplet
> > > (or modifies one) to do it in a pretty interface.  Lets stop bickering
> > > and
> > > just get back to what we all love to do, hacking. :)
> > > 
> > > On Sat, 23 Jan 1999 raster@redhat.com wrote:
> > > 
> > >> On 23 Jan, Miguel de Icaza scribbled:
> > >> ->  
> > >> ->  > The solution is to leave caching on. miguel wanted it off by
> > >> default.
> > >> ->  > All my code I write for Imlib ASSUMES caching - its SO HANDY  it
> > >> means
> > >> ->  > having to write very little intelligent code since all the smarts
> > >> are
> > >> ->  > handled for me. imlib is a high-level Image loading and display
> > >> library
> > >> ->  > - not low level. :)
> > >> ->  
> > >> ->  In GNOME we do not assume that.  So, that logic that might make
> > >> sense
> > >> ->  in Englightment is turned off for us.
> > >> ->  
> > >> ->  See my previous post for a solution in the case of the gtk-engines
> > >> setup.
> > >> 
> > >> I have reasons for caching - I designed the cache etc. for a very god
> > >> reasona nd I make use of it in my code. App slike electic Eyes, E,
> > >> gtk-pixmap theme etc. rely on it for performance reasons. overriding
> > >> user preferences forcibly in gnome-libs is the most evil thing i've
> > >> ever
> > >> seen. all performance issues wiht imlib and gnome hencefore I will deny
> > >> any responsability for. This is all on your head, not mine. I disagre
> > >> with you on this and I have my reasons. I will let you bog gnome down
> > >> if
> > >> you want.
> > >> 
> > >> ->  Miguel.
> > >> ->  
> > >> ->  
> > >> 
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> > > Marcus Brubaker
> > > spoon@elpaso.net
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> > > 
> > > Distrust all men in whom the impulse to punish is powerful.
> > >     -Nietzsche
> > > 
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> > Date: 23-Jan-99
> > Time: 17:52:01
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>     -Nietzsche
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