Re: forwarded message from Richard Stallman
- From: "James M. Cape" <jcape jcinteractive com>
- To: rms gnu org
- CC: gnome-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: forwarded message from Richard Stallman
- Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 23:00:09 -0600
Richard Stallman wrote:
>
> Certainly Richard Stallman and the rest of the contributors of the GNU
> Project deserve credit for their enormous work, but I imagine at this
> point it's probably a little too late in the game for a change of this
> magnitude.
>
> Many people have told me that it is "impossible to change" this, and
> advised me to give up. I didn't listen, and that's good, because this
> campaign is succeeding somewhat--some people now do say "GNU/Linux".
> Recently this term has appeared in the New York Times and the Boston
> Globe. I don't expect to convince *everyone* to use the term, but
> each person who does so helps to clear up the usual confusion.
>
> If you recognize that the name GNU/Linux is more appropriate, you too
> can use it. No one can stop you.
>
> Regardless, most of us who've been in this business any time
> have been well aware that GNU formed a major portion of Linux
>
> We have not developed any part of Linux. We developed the larger GNU
> operating system, in which Linux is typically used.
>
> It's sad now that anyone would make an effort to add further
> dividing lines
>
> I hope this isn't meant to apply to me. If it is, it is a
> misunderstanding. I am asking people to give the GNU Project credit
> for developing the GNU operating system, by mentioning "GNU" in the
> system's name. There's no dividing line here.
>
> This apparent drive toward demanding credit brings
> that aspiration into question and certainly demeans any air of
> selflessness.
>
> I can see how it might look that way, if you're assuming that the
> issue is just about ego. If only ego were at stake, I would agree that
> the issue was not very important.
>
> But something much more important is at stake: whether the GNU Project
> can spread the idealistic philosophy which brought the GNU/Linux
> system into existene in the first place.
>
> The name of Linux has become associated with the apolitical philosophy
> of Linus and the Open Source movement. Most fans of the GNU/Linux
> system don't know that our idealism created the system they love. We
> want them to know this, so that they won't dismiss our idealism as
> "impracticable". We have to make sure they know where the system
> really came from.
>
> I think it's a foolish to assume that any of us out here
> didn't realize how great Richard's group's contribution really was.
>
> Based on my experience, I would bet that many people on these lists
> think they know, but what they heard is just part of it. Probably
> many think that "GNU developed tools that are used in Linux." That's
> quite an understatement.
>
> But even if everyone on these lists does know the situation, most
> reporters don't. Nowadays, when they write stories about the GNU
> system, they usually call it "Linux", they usually don't know we had
> anything to do with it, and they usually don't even talk to us.
>
> I also think the Linux industry making an effort to credit the GNU
> Project would be well spent as well as perhaps even companies such as
>
> My experience has been that consistently using the name "GNU/Linux"
> informs people better than ten minutes of detailed explanation.
>
> A few years ago, I talked with people about their efforts to explain
> the situation without using that term, and what results they got. The
> message was going in one ear and out the other.
>
> Looking at what was happening, I concluded that the reason for this
> was that calling the system "Linux" implies that anything named "GNU"
> could only have had a secondary role in developing the system. Once
> people form that conceptual structure, if you try to tell them that
> the system's principal developer was the GNU Project, you are trying
> to change the structure. They tend to assume you don't really mean
> what you're saying, because the truth just "couldn't be true".
>
> However I do object to a "demand" as opposed to a request
>
> I don't know of anyone who is trying to force you to write
> "GNU/Linux", so that is just a hypothetical issue. The real issue is
> that writing GNU/Linux is the right thing to do.
>
> Please see http://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html for more
> explanation.
Please move this off-topic discussion to a relevant forum, GNOME has
nothing to do with it.
Jim Cape
http://www.jcinteractive.com
"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them
pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened."
-- Winston Churchill
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