Re: gnome-terminal idea

[George <jirka 5z com>]

On Wed, Sep 23, 1998 at 05:18:14PM -0400, Tim Moore wrote:
> twm has features? :-)

actually a lot of fetures .. that's why it's quite a lot bigger then say
fvwm

2 that I can remember off the top of my head are multiple display support
and session managment ...

it may not look the best, but it does a lot

> > notebook based MDI takes basically isn't really bloat so why eliminate
> > it ....
> 
> Because the whole MDI paradigm has some other problems outlined earlier.
> (e.g., memory space, application-oriented rather than task oriented
> grouping, etc.)

you can put this into a WM and use it from that ... I will continue using
my present windowmanager and use the tabbed MDI ... you will switch to
using top window based MDI ...

I can't see how removing tab mdi from the MDI helps you any ... or how leaving
it in makes it impossible to do what you want to ...

> Well I was basing the number 10 on what you said about 10 rxvts.

I don't necessairly have to have them in one windnow

> > I can have mail news and irc in one xterm mdi and just switch between them
> > ... I can be in the cvs dir in different dirs in a different term ... etc...
> > 
> > I'm not saying I would neccessairly have ONE window for ALL my apps ...
> 
> No but you would have one for each app, right?

no .... I'd for example have two term windows open, each with say 5
terminals, it would be analoguous to running screen in your terms, but
theoretically it should be better ...

> If you could have multiple windows in an app, and each window has tabs,
> that's better, but I would prefer that the notebooks be totally
> application-independent. If all you use is terminals than you *could* put
> all of the related stuff in one window, I suppose, but what about
> graphical apps?

again, that is not what I said ... I WANT to have more winndows, hoever 
some terminals I want to have all in one window ... again thinnk of running
screen

> > however if you've ever used screen you'll know how much that kind of 
> > "mdi" style is supperior in terms of "speed" of use to overlaping xterms
> 
> If I've ever used screen? Is screen a program?

yup[ ... makes something like virtual connsoles in any terminal window,
it's most likely installed on your puter .... type screen .. then to
create a new window type ^Ac ... to switch between them use ^An

> If you do have that option, then that's an improvement. gterm is a
> terminal which uses gnome-mdi.

I didn't know of gterm before 

> > so keep them in separate windows ... hoever I bet your program has more
> > sources ... say 20 files .... wouldn't it be nicer had they been cleanly
> > in one window rather then polluting your task bar for switching between
> > thewindow with your web page files and teh window with your c sources
> 
> And it would be even nicer if I could put the terminal, the debugger and
> the text editor into a single window (and assuming that the debugger and
> text editor are graphical programs).

then if you want to do such things ... make a WM extention and use that ..
I don't really need to, but I'd still like to use somethinng like tabbed MDI

> So is this window management or something GNOME should be handling?

depending how you do it .... with corba we can just have GTerm open documents
(c source code) and run term in itself and iot would work I guess ... it
wouldn't be like a window manager however

it could also be done by just havinng gterm "swallow" my vi session ...
in that case it would be WM independent

George