gnome-session... still not saving session

[Toshio Kuratomi <badger prtr-13 ucsc edu>]

Okay!  I've upgraded to this morning's gnome-core (May 16)
and I'm still not having session saved correctly.  There are
three problems as follows:
    I have two apps that refuse to save state and restart:
xcb (xcutbuffer) and usernet (a rehat-5 app for watching if your net
connection is up or down.)  I read the smproxy man page and found what
appears to be the problem: the app must set certain propseerties otherwise
smproxy cannot restart it.  I know how I want to restart both of these apps,
so how can I edit .gnome/session manually to get these entered?  (And will
logging out via panel afterwards overwrite my changes... so I'll have to make
my changes from the terminal?)

Second problem: panel will not start automatically and is not in the
.gnome/session file when I log in.  I start the panel manually and run
save-session.  Then I check .gnome/session and it's there. (Following entry:
    12,id=117f000001000089538491500000005370000
    12,DiscardCommand=panel --discard-session \
        117f000001000089538491500000005370000 
    12,RestartCommand=panel --sm-client-id \
        117f000001000089538491500000005370000 
)  When I log out and log back in (via the panel's logout entry) the panel
isn't started and the panel isn't in the session file....  After some thought
I need to know -- is the panel calling save-session as it is exiting?  So that
it is already gone when the session manager writes the .gnome/session file on
exit?  Or is this some other bug?

Final problem: I have two extra xterms that keep popping up on my desktop.
They are in the session file as well.  I just can't seem to get rid of them.
I close them and run save-session.  No change.  The entries are still in the
session file.  Should I try removing those entries manually and seeeing what
happens?  I have a feeling the session manager keeps a copy of the session
internally and just uses the file to save state between invocations so that
won't work will it..?

Okay.  I lied:  One more problem here.  I have an xconsole window open and I
want it to start iconic.  I suppose the session manager doesn't understand
that so it isn't putting a -iconic flag into the session file.  I try to add
it manually, but that doesn't work... I think the session manager is
overwriting my change to the session file.... Any cle\ue as to what I could
do?

-Toshio
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