Re: GTK+ translations

[Gil Forcada <gforcada gnome org>]

El dv 19 de 04 de 2013 a les 23:46 +0200, en/na Claude Paroz va
escriure:
> Le vendredi 19 avril 2013 à 16:01 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit :
> > There seems to be some confusion around GTK+ translations.
> >
> > To clarify: GTK+ is not using intltool. Please don't put any type
> > annotations in POTFILES.in. That breaks the build. We handle
> > extracting strings from ui files differently. The correct way to get
> > an updated pot for GTK+ is as follows:
> >
> > make
> > make -C po gtk30.pot
>
> Matthias,
>
> That new method to generate the pot file is problematic for GNOME
> translations.
> Until now, no GNOME modules require to be built to be able to generate
> the pot file. And this has always been a rule we stick with whenever
> some new module wanted to use the GNOME i18n infrastructure.
>
> That sort of design change is not something that should be taken
> lightly. I think that requiring building a module to obtain the pot file
> is bad for translators in general. It is then much more difficult for
> translators to update translations themselves (almost impossible for the
> majority of them).
> Even at an infrastructure level, you surely know that building big
> modules like GTK+ is often a challenge. And if then other modules begin
> to use the same procedure, this will be a nightmare to maintain in the
> i18n point of view.
>
> I'd like to ask the GNOME community to reconsider that change and do all
> what's possible to keep the legacy way of generating translations. I'm
> not particularly attached to intltool, so if we find another tool that
> does a better job, why not. But let's try all possible solution that do
> not require to build the modules themselves.
>
> Thanks for hearing us (me?).
>
> Claude

+1!

Fine to move to something else, if *really* needed, but having different
kinds of extraction tools and having to build the extraction tool itself
seems overkill to me (and for most of translators I would guess).

It's already easy, but hard for non-geek translators, to preview
documentations (which are just a msgfmt -vc LANG.po && itstool -m
messages.po -o . ../C/*.page) that if we have to ask them to build gtk+
just to get the translation file or to check if the file is
up-to-date...

Cheers,
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