Re: New module decisions for 2.26

[Claude Paroz <claude 2xlibre net>]

Thanks for the notice, l10n.gnome.org has been updated.

Claude

Le mercredi 21 janvier 2009 à 19:20 +0100, Vincent Untz a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> The release team met on Sunday to talk about the latest movies, the
> forthcoming Australian Open, etc. but also to make fun of Andreas N. (we
> won't reveal his last last name publicly -- but he's swedish and draws
> various things). Hopefully, Andreas N. didn't notice that and he will
> continue to be helpful :-) Oh, we also discussed the new modules
> proposals and came to the following result.
> 
> Many thanks to the people who contributed to the discussion on the list,
> and to the authors and maintainers of the proposed modules!
> 
> 
> Short summary
> =============
> 
> In:
>   brasero (desktop suite)
>   evolution-mapi (desktop suite)
>   gnome-user-share (desktop suite)
>   DeviceKit-power (external dependency)
>   farsight2 (external dependency)
>   libgda (external dependency)
>   libical (external dependency)
>   libmapi (external dependency)
>   libnotify (external dependency)
>   libproxy (external dependency)
>   Mono.Addins (external dependency)
>   pulseaudio (external dependency)
>   unique (external dependency)
> 
> Moved:
>   intltool (from platform to external dependency)
> 
> Out:
>   libseed
>   WebKit/GTK+
> 
> Out, but because they are not external dependencies strictly speaking:
>   notification-daemon
>   samba4
> 
> Removed:
>   gnome-volume-manager (replaced by nautilus, etc.)
>   nautilus-cd-burner (replaced by brasero)
> 
> 
> Details
> =======
> 
>  + brasero (desktop)
>    - mixed feelings in the community and in the release team
>    - reactive development team
>    - directly conflicts with nautilus-cd-burner feature-wise, so if
>      accepted, nautilus-cd-burner has to be deprecated
>    - fills a need that has been felt by many users
>    - used by default on several distributions already
>    => approved
>    => nautilus-cd-burner is therefore deprecated
> 
>  + DeviceKit-power (external dependency)
>    - needed for the new gnome-power-manager
>    => approved
> 
>  + evolution-mapi (desktop)
>    - depends on libmapi, which depends samba4
>    - libmapi 0.8.0 will be released in the next few days
>    - provides support for exchange 2007 (which evolution-exchange
>      doesn't do)
>    - some features might not be ready for 2.26 (Password Expiry, Send
>      Options, Out-of-Office)
>    - possible to choose between evolution-exchange and evolution-mapi at
>      runtime
>    => approved
>       We'll keep evolution-exchange in 2.26 if possible, to avoid
>       regressions for people who do not require exchange 2007 support.
> 
>  + farsight 2 (external dependency)
>    - needed for empathy
>    - will make it possible to offer good VoIP support
>    => approved
> 
>  + gnome-user-share (desktop)
>    - no documentation
>    - Bastien wants one capplet to cover vino & gnome-user-share
>      preferences (would live in gnome-control-center). This is not
>      required for 2.26, but would still be nice if possible.
>    - hard depends on libnotify, but looks easy to make this dependency
>      optional.
>    => approved
>       Even though this was not a blocker, the release team would like to
>       see some effort towards writing documentation.
> 
>  + libgda (external dependency)
>    - needed for anjuta
>    - mixed about libgda vs sqlite: some release team people feel that
>      anjuta needs would be satisfied with sqlite which is already an
>      external dependency
>    - the symbol db plugin could be optional
>    - switching anjuta to sqlite probably requires some non-negligible
>      effort
>    => approved
>       It'd be nice to have someone write a small wiki page to help
>       people choose between libgda and sqlite.
> 
>  + libical (external dependency)
>    - needed to remove the fork from evolution-data-server
>    - less duplication is good
>    => approved
> 
>  + libmapi (external dependency)
>    - needed for evolution-mapi
>    - see evolution-mapi rationale
>    => approved
> 
>  + libnotify (external dependency)
>    - widely used
>    - would be nice to have a more active development
>    - feature that should live in GTK+ in the future (when dbus can be
>      used there)
>    => approved
>      The release team wants to stress out that it should really not be
>      abused (as it tends to be).
> 
>  + libproxy (external dependency)
>    - needed for libsoup
>    => approved
> 
>  + libseed (external dependency)
>    - one game in gnome-games uses it
>    - too early to know how used it will be, and how the community reacts
>      from a libseed vs gjs point of view
>    - good to see libseed and gjs developers talk about making things
>      compatible
>    => rejected
> 
>  + Mono.Addins (external dependency)
>    - needed to remove the version bundled with tomboy
>    - less duplication is good
>    => approved
> 
>  + notification-daemon (external dependency)
>    - not really a build-time dependency, so not strictly needed
>    - still use libsexy
>    - would be nice to have a more active development
>    - would be nice to see the new development going on after the
>      discussion in December
>    - libnotify has API to detect the capabilities of a running
>      notification daemon
>    => rejected, but because it's orthogonal to our external dependencies
>       (it's like apache for gnome-user-share)
> 
>  + pulseaudio (external dependency)
>    - needed for gnome-volume-control
>    - general consensus that it's the way forward, even though it's a
>      bumpy road for some users
>    => approved
> 
>  + samba4 (external dependency)
>    - actually not directly needed for evolution-mapi
>    => put it in the list of dependencies of our dependencies
> 
>  + unique (external dependency)
>    - needed for nautilus and other modules
>    - feature that should live in GTK+ in the future, but it's nice to
>      have it now
>    => approved
> 
>  + webkit (external dependency)
>    - epiphany and yelp won't use it for 2.26
>    - evolution is still using gtkhtml
>    - devhelp uses it (we used an old branch for 2.24)
>    - still not ready for accessibility
>    - the release team is happy to see the WebKit/GTK+ people willing to
>      release more often, and willing to fix the accessibility issue for
>      2.28
>    => rejected
> 
> 
>  + dropping gnome-volume-manager (from desktop)
>    - all useful features are now handled by nautilus and other modules
>    => approved
> 
>  + moving intltool to an external dependency (instead of platform)
>    - not a GNOME-only technology
>    - we did such a move for libxml2 in the past
>    => approved
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Vincent