Re: Issues with keyboard accelerators
- From: Jorge González González <aloriel gmail com>
- To: Simos <simos lists googlemail com>
- Cc: GNOME TranslationProject <gnome-i18n gnome org>
- Subject: Re: Issues with keyboard accelerators
- Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:13:43 +0200
Thank you very much Simos.
Cheers.
El lun, 30-03-2009 a las 11:07 +0000, Simos escribió:
> 2009/3/30 Jorge González <aloriel gmail com>:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm having some issues with keyboard accelerators. Recently some users
> > opened bugs concerning the usage of keyboard accelerators with letters
> > containing accents (ie.e _í, _á, etc); apparently they do not work,
> > however I'm quite sure I tried them long ago and they did work. How
> > are other teams that use accents (and such) dealing with this problem?
> > Are you avoiding using keyboard accelerators with these letters?
> > Should I report the bug to gtk?
>
> It is indeed a bug. For our case, we (Greek team) try to avoid those
> characters when setting accelerators for the reasons below.
>
> The source of the problem relates to your keyboard layout, and the
> fact that it may require dead keys in order to print characters such
> as áéäẽ, etc.
> Due to the dead key sequence, it is currently not possible to do things like
> Alt + <dead_acute> + <a>, the sequence is canceled as soon as
> Alt+dead_acute is pressed.
>
> If however you could get á in your keyboard layout by pressing a
> single key (that is, no need for dead key), then the accelerator would
> simply work.
>
> Is it a GTK+ bug or a Xorg bug?
>
> GTK+ could be modified so that when it sees "_árbol", it would
> actually register it as if it work "_arbol", so pressing Alt+a would
> simply work.
> The downside is that it would not be able to distinguish between áäãâà, etc.
> Would that be a realistic problem however?
>
> Would we want users to have to press Alt+<dead_acute>+a in order to
> get to the accelerator? With some layouts, you get <dead_acute> when
> you press AltGr+<somekey>, so the full keyboard sequence is
> Alt+(AltGr+<somekey>+<a>).
>
> I think I have seen a report about this but I cannot find it at gtk+,
> component: input-methods. It might actually be a report at
> freedesktop.org, so you might want to have a look there. The sequence
> Alt+<dead_key>+<char> might actually fail due to the X server cutting
> the sequence once the deadkey is pressed.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Simos
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Jorge González González <aloriel gmail com>
Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org
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