Re: Missing language teams from Mango

[Olav Vitters <olav bkor dhs org>]

On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 11:12:57AM +0530, Runa Bhattacharjee wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Christian Rose wrote:
>> On 7/4/08, Ankit Patel <ankit644 yahoo com> wrote:
>>   
>>> Runa Bhattacharjee wrote:
>>> Ankit Patel wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>     
> [snip]
>>
>> I added http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=541665 as a request
>> for solving this catch-22 in Mango. Needs some Mango love; I hope that
>> Olav will have time to look at it...
> Thanks Christian for filing the bug. The conversation in there however, 
> still does not clarify what are the steps a team has to take to ensure that 
> they eventually get commit rights. There is no mention of documentation (or 
> any impending ones) about the LDAP account process, and whether existing 

Mango doesn't do that yet. So without being able to do stuff, it is
pointless to have documentation.

> teams listed in Mango would be reviewed to ensure that they conform to the 
> requirements. Often, teams go through changes in leadership and may have to 

What requirements?

> go through the entire process, irrespective of the maturity/trust of the 
> existing account holders from the language team. How would such a situation 
> be handled?

Mango doesn't handle that at the moment.

> The solution plan as described in:
>
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=541505
>
> does not have any time line about the change in process and does not talk 
> about how the *existing* languages  would be re-instated into Mango 
> (assuming, the current mandatory rule of 

I don't get 'reinstated'. Nobody's account has been revoked.

> "team-gets-listed-if-svn-account-exists-for-coordinators"  is still in 

Timeline? I don't get paid to work on GNOME. So I can't give a timeline.
Especially as I still have to learn Django, LDAP schema stuff, etc.

If more people help, it will go faster. Of course, ideally I'd like it
to be finished in a few months. But that is not a promise plus it might
be fixed faster (no idea).

> place). Some of these language teams have been around for nearly 5-6 years, 
> highly active, have a larger group of volunteers and have also gone through 
> changes in coordinatorship. Most of the individual language team bugs have 
> been closed with an outright NOTABUG resolution, without any clarification 
> of what we are doing wrong and/or what is to be done next.

I think I explained everything. The Mango component is for bugs in
Mango. Not about getting people an account.

If you want to help, ask me what is needed and submit patches.
Discussion won't speed anything up.

If someone is at GUADEC, just talk to me. That'll be much easier and
faster.


In short: Mango is a tool to make the accounts gnome org queue handling
automated. If Mango doesn't do something, there always is the email
address (which currently is even handled every weekend or so).

Currently people will be pretty much lost if they're forgot their Mango
password etc, I have ideas about solving that. But don't have time, I
work on more stuff on GNOME than Mango, etc.

-- 
Regards,
Olav