RE: Albanian and Turkmen Teams

[Ghorban Mohamad Tavakkoli <gmtavakkoli yahoo com>]

Dear opensource developers, translators and free men

Mr. Erdal and his group sent me an email in two
languages, turkish and english befor their mail to
this mailinglist. [i attached this mail at end of my
message].

Well, after reading their letter, I can see that
there are some differences between Turkish and
English version. In English version they are talking
about their job a lot.

Well, they are saying that they sow my name in
localization forums and they were trying to make a
universal Turkmen National operating system and that
Turkish goverment payed them 1 million dollars.
(I actually don't believe that). They say they want
to communicate with me. They are the firm that
creates software. They want some information about
me. And they want to work on Translation Project
together with me. And finally they say that they
would be glad if i share the coordinator field in
Gnome Translation project web page with them.

Here is what I think. They are a commercial company
that wants to translate Gnome or other software to
Turkmen and sell it in Turkmenia. Thus, make profit.

I think we should not share any of our accounts with
them.

what is their REAL purpose in translating
and how did they learn Turkmenian. Are they
commercially interested (I think they are because
they say they use Oracle which is very expensive)?

I have some questions:
* Firstly why don't they create and translate for
  Turkish team itself?
* Why are they so interested in Turkmen?

I would unfortunately not share any ideas or manpower
with the commercially interested company. if they
realy want to translate GNOME [without any
commerical interedt], thay can work with me.

fianlly please forgive me for publishing their
mail. it is only for our threated freedom.

Thanks,

========
Tukrmen team

~~~~~~~~~~~~~Their mail to me~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sayın Ghorban M. Tavakoly,

29 şubat 2004 tarihinde Linux un Türkmen dilinde
localization için 
proje çalışması yapmak istediğinizi öğrendik.


Linux ve open office uygulamalarının Türkmen dilinde
tekrar derlenmesi 
ve "TURKMEN Milli isletim sistemi" hayata getirmek
için
bizde projeler hazırladık.
Hatta bu çalışmalar için Türkiye Cumhuriyet Hazine
Bakanlığından 1 
milyon Amerikan doları tutarında yatırım teşvik
belgesi de hazırllattık.

Ankara da Teknoloji geliştirme bölgesi olan Teknokent
bünyesinde 
yazılım ve yüksek teknolojiler geliştiren bir firmanın
sahibi ve genel 
müdürü olarak sizinle iletişime geçmek isteriz.

öncelikli bizimle iletişime geçerek ozunuz, isiniz ve
iletişim 
bilgileriniz hakkında informasıya verirseniz
seviniriz.

sizi hakkınızda bilgi alıp Translation Project te
bizimle beraber 
olmanizi dileriz.

bu arada, Gnome Translation project sayfasında
coordinator alanını 
benimle veya firmamla paylaşırsanız sevinirim.

saygılarımla

----------

Mr. Tavakoly

We noticed that you willing to participiant of Turkmen
Locatization 
project on february, 29 2004.

We also working for a while to realizating national
Turkmen operating 
system and general office applications for Turkmen
Goverment.

Finally we achieve to get "financially support
acreditation" from 
Treasury Ministry of Turkish Goverment amount of 1
million USD for this 
project.

As a founder and general manager of İstanbul
Consulting who operates in 
TEKNOKENT (High Technology Development and production
Campus of TURKEY) 
in Ankara, we like hear "hi" or "Selam" from you. Our
major subjects 
are software development and project management.
we are able to produce with c  , j2ee, j2me, 9i
Developer Suite and 
many database vendors solutions like Oracle.

please e-mail or phone us and give information about
yourself, your 
company/organization and contact information.

We like to work with you in this translation project
after get 
information about you.

by the way, I will preciate you if you update
coordinator field by 
mentioned about me or my company at the GNOME
translation project.

sincerely

Mehmet Ali Erdal
Founder, General Manager
maerdal@istanbulconsulting.net

istanbul consulting information technologies
Teknokent No:6 Hacettepe, Beytepe
06800 Ankara, TURKEY
www.istanbulconsulting.net

Phone:  90 312 299 20 40
Fax    :  90 312 299 20 41
Mobile:  90 533 650 85 66


 
--- Mehmet Ali Erdal <maerdal@istanbulconsulting.net>
wrote:
> We are a Turkish software development company and
> willing to take part in
> the Gnome Translation Project.
> 
> We are mainly focused on developing multitier
> applications and localization
> of open source national operating systems and
> applications (like Linux open
> office) in several languages such as Turkmen,
> Albanian and Sudanese. We
> believe that the initial and most challenging part
> of this task is to
> convince the governments of these countries for the
> usage of these operating
> systems and applications in public offices and
> organizations.It is clear
> that in the developing countries, computer usage
> begins in public
> organizations and than reach to the private end
> users. The second phase is
> the developing and localization part which is
> relatively easy.
> 
> For our project The Turkish Republic Under
> Secretariat of Treasury granted
> us a financial support accreditation certificate of
> about 1 million USD in
> the context of supporting information technologies
> and their implementation
> processes. We also have the support of several
> foreign investors willing to
> invest in these developing countries in various
> areas from IT to
> construction and they aim to strengthen their
> relationships with these
> countries by providing them these OS’s and
> applications in their own
> languages and without charging any license fees and
> thus creating a gain
> convenient to the public interest. Our investors
> have high level
> governmental contacts and they are eligible to
> convince these governments in
> this subject. We as Istanbul Consulting have
> developed solutions in these
> countries before for governmental organizations and
> public offices and we
> are familiar with the procedures of these countries.
> 
> In this context we want to start the Sudanese Team,
> become the coordinator
> of Turkmen and Sudanese teams and contribute to the
> Albanian Team. Our
> meetings with the investors and government officials
> of these countries are
> going on at the very moment and we actually believe
> that becoming the
> coordinator of all these three teams will strengthen
> our position against
> the governments of these countries and the investors
> thus making it easier
> to convince both parties which is very important as
> it will greatly widen
> the usage of the outcome of this project in these
> countries.
> 
> We are hoping to hear from related teams about their
> opinions and be added
> as Sudanese team.
> Thanks in Advance,
> Mehmet Ali Erdal
> General Manager, Founder
> Istanbul Consulting Information Technologies
> Hacettepe Teknokent No:6
> Ankara-Turkey
> e-mail : maerdal@istanbulconsulting.net
> Tel    : +90 312 2992040
> Fax	 : +90 312 2992041
> www.istanbulconsulting.net
> 
> As a brief information about our company;
> Istanbul Consulting and Information Technologies is
> a software development
> and project management company and continuing its
> activities in Hacettepe
> University “Teknokent” area (Turkey-Ankara).
> “Teknokent” areas are dedicated
> to companies performing technology research and
> development activities in
> Turkey and these companies are supported by the
> Turkish Government.
> 
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=====
Ghorban Mohammad Tavakkoli

Email:
         gmtavakkoli@yahoo.com
         gtavakkoli@yahoo.com

Tel:
         (+98)311-669-3059  [Isfahan]
         (+98)173-543-2331  [Agh Ghala-Dogonchi]

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