Re: run dialog vs gnome_vfs_url_show

["Duarte Loreto" <happyguy_pt hotmail com>]

   Hello!

I would just like to give my opinion on this, as Portuguese coordinator (and 
only translator)...

I think that the strings should be added as long as a new release is made 
before 2.4.0 so that translations can still be included. I've seen in the 
past that some modules didn't make releases as "no more bugs were found 
during beta". This lead to translation updates made during string freeze 
(beta) were not included on x.x.0 releases.

We are still about 15 days ahead of final 2.4.0 release. It is in the users 
best interes to have the keys there. It is in our (translators) best 
interest to have those strings translatable. If some teams don't have the 
time to translate them, at least those that have can do the translation. If 
the strings get inside untranslatable, noone will be able to translate them 
even having the time.

If the new strings are a bit incorrect (as they really are because HTTP(S) 
should be uppercase as it is an acronym, like URI should also be, and 
because of missing quotes, etc), at least they are there. And when we 
translate, we can translate "correctly", open the bug and wait for the 2.4.1 
to just remove the fuzzy mark as our translations were already correct...

This may sound a bit selfish as I spend the last two days going over all 
gnome core modules looking missing accelerators and typos and normalizing 
some expressions. But I usually think this way: "As a GNOME user (and 
evangelist with my wife) I think it is best to have apps working correctly 
although some strings are not translated than having a 100% translation 
stats but then having problems using GNOME or explaining hackish workarounds 
to my wife so that she can use her GNOME".

These are may 2 cents (well... my billing rate is a bit more... hehehe). 
Anyway, I'm a one-man-team and I'm considered "one of the most active teams" 
so... Others share they thoughs and let Cristian take the decision.

Duarte "HappyGuy" Loreto

"Don't worry, be happy!"

P.S. - I'll be "netless" for a week, on vacations... So I might even loose 
the oportunity to update new freeze breakages. Yet, I still think it is best 
for the users. And, after all, we all do it for the users, right?

>Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 21:35:17 +0100
>From: Dafydd Harries <daf@parnassus.ath.cx>
>To: GNOME I18N List <gnome-i18n@gnome.org>
>Cc: andersca@gnome.org
>Subject: Re: run dialog vs gnome_vfs_url_show
>
>On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 09:41:06PM +0200, Jordi Mallach wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 08:08:47PM +0100, Dafydd Harries wrote:
> > > This would mean breaking the freeze even more. Some teams have already
> > > translated the strings that broke the freeze; these teams would then
> > > have to retranslate the changed strings.
> >
> > I think that if the strings are going to be approved, they should be
> > checked in without the problems you have pointed out. The teams that
> > have already updated the strings are the most active teams. They should
> > have hardly no problems to update again.
>
>Agreed. If we are fixing these particular strings, and if, as Alexander
>says, there are other similar strings, then I assume that those strings
>will also be changed at the same time?
>
>Attached is a patch. It changes 30 strings (long + short for 3 keys each
>for 5 URL types). Of those, ten are identical. It makes consistent the
>use of "command" vs. "program", fixes punctuation in long descriptions,
>and generally makes the descriptions more consistent (and what I
>consider to be) more usable.
>
>I know this is quite a few changes, but if Alexander's changes are being
>committed and the strings are to be improved, this patch represents how
>I think the strings would be ideally. I am open to suggestions.
>
>I want to reiterate that I only think changes should be made with the
>full support of the release team and the translation team.
>
>--
>Dafydd

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