Re: Don't bloat Gnome-libs, bloat Gtk+/Glib
- From: Michael Meeks <michael ximian com>
- To: Havoc Pennington <hp redhat com>
- Cc: Owen Taylor <otaylor redhat com>, gnome-hackers gnome org
- Subject: Re: Don't bloat Gnome-libs, bloat Gtk+/Glib
- Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 22:25:46 -0500 (EST)
Sigh,
On 12 Mar 2001, Havoc Pennington wrote:
> Sigh. Can we PLEASE stop posting mail that amounts to "I have
> technical disagreements with project XYZ. Therefore I will flame the
> developers of XYZ."
Good plan.
> Just post the fricking technical disagreements, preferably on the
> devel list for XYZ. This passive-aggressive bullshit is not going to
> get us anywhere.
Well, as I said, I agree with most of the proposal, and I was
'mildly amused' about what I will re-state simply as the feature
increase in Gtk+/glib.
> Well first you need to get rid of that assumption - remember that I
> wrote a good bit of stuff in gnome-libs, GConf, etc. and I hope
> qualify as a "Gnome person."
Of course you do, I hope I'm not quite foolish enough to think
otherwise :-), but I would see you, Owen and Tim as Gtk+ people.
> The purpose of discussion and argument is not to be "right," the
> purpose is to reach a good conclusion based on everyone's best
> ideas. I think flames like this keep people from posting their
> current best ideas.
I didn't mean to flame you, will you accept my apologies ?
what can I do to encourage other people that if they get so flamed
that it will all come good eventualy ?
Perhaps I should have prefixed my comments with the following
background:
The other day reading through some OO source code I saw the
type sal_Int16 in some code and I would prefer to have seen gint16.
Then, recently I talked to the author of PHP and a Perl hacker about
the amount of shared code. I considered where the obvious place was
to start sharing code between projects, and it seems to me that the
best place is at the XP foundation layer. Then I looked at the
direction of glib and was sad.
Then I was mildly amused to be told about the importance of
splitting up libraries ...
> Don't you agree? Well, probably not. But you should!
:-) I hope something useful came out of this,
Michael.
--
mmeeks gnu org <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot
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