SV: Testing & A Suggestion :)

["Blad, John Erling" <john erling blad aftenposten no>]

My point is.. What is the difference between a "hidden" app in the taskbar
and one not running? I've run into this problem many times when I try to
learn newcomers how to use a PC.

Many handhelds don't use this distinction between application states.

John

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Emne: Re: Testing & A Suggestion :)


That is a good point.  Actually, it is a 'problem' I have with gnometerm.  On the
HP boxes I use to co-administer, the HP terminals were allowed to have names...
essentially you could name them kind of like you can name tabs in Powershell.
This made life MUCH easier.

In HPterm, I think the titlebar only showed what it was named.  So if you named a
term 'FOO' and another 'BAR', then that is the only info you got.  Gnome terms, on
the other hand, sometimes show info like which vi session you are in, etc.  Why
not combine the two?

Is it possible (or already done and I don't know about the feature) that we could
name the terms, then also have status info in the titlebar?  for example, if
I name the term FOO and am editing BAR, it would look like:
______________________________________________________________________________
0|  FOO:  vi
/home/me/bar
|X|
-------------------------------------------------------------

This would also allow easier transition to other things, like the enlightenment
iconbox 'snapshot view' (which I love).

If one can already name a terminal, then the problem should be solved (and someone
please write me and tell me how this is done).  If not, then that feature would
solve many of the problems.

Alan wrote:

> [snip]
> >|Netscape      >|>    Gnome.org     1|
> >|Gnome Term    >|     mozilla.org   1|
> >|_______________|     slashdot.org  2|
> >|               |____________________|
> >
> >
> > kind of like macos, but add the ability to go to particular window
> > immediately,
> > and show which desktop they are on (the number to the right).
> >
> > Also, you could then issue commands (hide all netscape, or show all netscape,
> > or
> > whatever) based on that.
> >
> > I find the macos way of handling apps very good, but if synthesized with
> > (presumably) BeOS ways of doing it, I think it could be even more powerful
> > and
> > easy to manage a desktop.
>
> The only thing that I can see that would be bad with this way of handling
> things (I have to echo that this is a good way of doing things) is that what
> happens if you have have multiple gnome-terms runing, how do you tell them
> apart?  Right now their titlebar (by default) don't seem to reflect what is
> going on in them like xterm or rxvt (where the title bar name will change to
> "vim ~/foo" when you edit foo).
>
> One thing that sucks right now is that I have to remember which gnome-term is
> which by guessing, and the above method isn't going to help.  I'd say 1) make
> the change to gnome-term to make the titlebar changes a la xterm and 2) change
> the way the task list (old and/or proposed way) show a number with the order
> that that was minimized or created.  In the sketch above there are numbers
> beside the netscape windows which I assume was meant to reflect this.  Either
> that or figure out a better way to organize the windows (numbering might look
> kinda lame).
>
> alan
>
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