Re: PROPOSAL: harvest the RSG first

[Bowie Poag <bjp primenet com>]

> 
> I disagree.  The purpose of the RSG in my mind was to use the open
> development model to work out style guide proposals.  I believe this is
> the right way to do it, and I do not see the UISG effort moving in that
> direction.

What makes you say that? 

> 
> I am very disappointed by Bowie's comments insisting that the development
> effort be splintered.  I feel that forcing a development fork at this
> early date will hamstring both groups, rather than having one healthy
> one.

I appreciate you trying to put words in my mouth, but, its unnecesary. I
really do have the ability to speak for myself on this issue. I have
"insisted that the development be splintered" about as much as much as
Newt Gingrich has praised the high, upstanding moral integrity and virtues
of BIll Clinton. Grab a clue, Gleef. I even -offered- Tom a position as a
UISG maintainer, to PREVENT him from forking off.. Yeah, thats me. Mr.
Fork.

> The RSG is just getting started, and its development is fast and working
> well.  The signal-to-noise ratio on this list is annoying for development,
> but I think that much of the noise will fade.  I have found you a fair and
> compitent maintainer of the RSG, and I would be happy to work on a project
> maintained by you.  I understand that a maintainer can get burned out, but
> I would rather see you pass the torch to someone else than kill the
> project, which I feel still is crucial.

The RSG is dead. Tom wrote it off this afternoon.

> I have yet to see the UISG demonstrate that it is viable, and I have many
> reservations as to Bowie's ability as a development maintainer.  As to the
> other to members of the UISG team, Dan has had many good points, many bad
> points and a lot of chaff.  I do not recall ever seeing Bill post to this
> list.

1) You havent seen what we're working on, because we dont want an
   uncontrolled comittee of 300 people deciding whats going to go into
   a document. You also didnt attend the conference, and havent asked 
   any of the other maintainers of the UISG whats going on, as far as I
   know...soooo, the fact that you dont know whats going on is largely
   your fault. You can fix that by just asking us, instead of tossing
   flame unidirectionally.

2) Bill's job within the UISG is to simply collect ideas, and funnel them
   to Dan and I. If you were to have attended the conference, or simply
   asked us, you would know that, and you wouldnt be flaming right now,
   and wasting everyones time.

Bowie