Re: Two string changes for Nautilus

[Shaun McCance <shaunm gnome org>]

On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 22:25 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> Em Wed, 2012-09-12 às 16:47 -0400, Cosimo Cecchi escreveu:
> > Hi Shaun,
> > 
> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Shaun McCance <shaunm gnome org> wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 15:15 -0400, Cosimo Cecchi wrote:
> > >> Hi again,
> > >>
> > >> I would like to ask a string freeze break request for two strings in Nautilus:
> > >> - https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=680983 - this is about
> > >> changing the "Send To..." string of the nautilus-sendto extension to
> > >> "Email...". nautilus-sendto used to offer a set of options other than
> > >> email, which are currently not really working correctly. In the bug
> > >> there's a patch to change the extension to open the email client
> > >> directly instead, and this should be mirrored in the string displayed
> > >> in the UI.
> > >
> > > Surely gutting nautilus-sendto should get a bit more exposure
> > > and discussion than just jamming it in after the freeze. Has
> > > anybody looked at what other modules use nautilus-sendto to
> > > share stuff?
> 
> They do, and it doesn't break that, per-se. It just restricts the target
> destination to be e-mail.

So a cursory grep indicates that nautilus-sendto is used by
evolution, evince, yelp, rhythmbox, and cheese. I understand
this wouldn't exactly break these modules, but it would offer
a different experience than what the maintainers expected.
And that potentially invalidates documentation and marketing
materials for any of those modules (or third-party modules
I've missed).

I suspect none of them would even have used nautilus-sendto
to begin with if this were the original behavior, because I
really don't see how it's any different than

  g_app_info_launch_default_for_uri("mailto:?attach=...";);

Especially for evolution, it's very strange to call out to
another program just to open its own composer window.

> > [CC-ing Bastien]
> > 
> > I'm sorry, I should have probably explained this a little better.
> > Nobody is trying to gut nautilus-sendto, the goal is to have something
> > working nicely for the use case of sending a file to somebody. As far
> > as I can see, the Email option is really the only interesting one
> > working correctly for nautilus-sendto at the moment, and that's where
> > the patch came from.
> 
> It's not the only interesting one working correctly, but it's the only
> one for which a workflow with a UI that doesn't suck was designed.
> 
> For example, the nautilus-sendto plugin in gnome-bluetooth. It works,
> but it looks like crap, and even more so if you don't have any Bluetooth
> targets around.

But the other targets do work. I've used them. I'm sure
we could come up with better designs for them. But then
let's do that, rather than throwing them away. I'd much
rather we came up with a design and put it through the
feature proposal process for 3.8.

--
Shaun