Re: UTF-8 manual pages



Hi everyone :)

We've been discussing this on the Deb18n list. Debian is transitioning to UTF-8 manpages. The question of UTF-8 capable man- readers came up. I thought Yelp did support UTF-8, but it looks like it doesn't.

On 17/10/2007, at 6:29 PM, Ming Hua wrote:

On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 06:03:34PM +0930, Clytie Siddall wrote:

Another note about Colin's original, and very well-thought-out post [about transitioning to UTF-8 manpages]:
I think Yelp _does_ support UTF-8. I'm pretty sure I tested my pilot
Vietnamese manpage in it (as well as groff-utf8) a year or two back.

Actually I was thinking about this a few days ago too. I just tried for
simplified Chinese (zh_CN):

On up-to-date unstable with yelp 2.20.0-1 and man-db 2.5.0-3:
The one-line description (in the search result page) is displayed
correctly. The manpage itself is not, I see Latin characters as if the
Chinese is literally parsed as ISO-8859-*.

On a not-so-up-to-date unstable with yelp 2.18.1-1 and man-db 2.4.4-4:
The one-line description is in English.  The manpage itself is broken
too, but in a different way -- I see Chinese (and some Japanese)
characters, but they are not what they are supposed to be, but just some
nonsense.  Something is wrong in the decoding-encoding process.

I am testing in a en_US.UTF-8 locale, use "LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8 yelp" to
start yelp.  The man page used is chsh(1), shipped in passwd package
itself, and uses GB2312/GBK encoding.  If I use "LANG=zh_CN.GBK yelp"
instead, everything is the same except that the one-line description in
up-to-date unstable is broken too (in yet a third way).

Just a data point for anyone who is interested in more digging.

Ming

I'm pretty sure I remember viewing my UTF-8 pilot Vietnamese manpage in Yelp, a couple of years back. Is Yelp currently capable of displaying UTF-8 manpages? If so, is there any special config you have to do? I know I had to set a number of values in my manconf to view my UTF-8 manpage.

If Yelp doesn't support UTF-8 manpages yet, is it likely to soon?

Naturally, I don't want a good GNOME app like Yelp looking bad in other projects. The idea! I want to wave the (foot) flag. :)

from Clytie

Vietnamese Free Software Translation Team
http://vnoss.net/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=projects:l10n



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