Re: Where we'll put docs for control-center

["Rebecca J. Walter" <rjp mail tele dk>]

I personally like the GIMP help browser and it isn't heavy.  I won't
even install nautilus on my machines.  If you require users to use
nautilus for help, many of them will run away screaming and go find
another desktop.  Maybe a look at the GIMP help browser could help adapt
things for GNOME.

On 12 Aug 2001 00:17:11 -0500, Kevin Breit wrote:
> On 10 Aug 2001 23:53:08 +0200, Rebecca J. Walter wrote:
> > perhaps it means we need to use something different for a help browser.
> > in  my opinion, nautilus is way too heavy to even CONSIDER for this.
> 
> Rebecca,
> 	Hallaluia (sp?)!!!  Seriously though.  I don't understand entirely why
> Greg feels that Nautilus IS the current solution for our help problems.
> 
> - Nautilus, in itself, is a heavy program (don't deny it).  Back at
> Ximian, I could tolerate reading documentation in it.  But here on this
> 300Mhz/64MB box...well, I want help, not my disk to swap.  As the end
> user, I don't want to wait 30 seconds for my help stuff to show.  The
> average computer user has the attention span of 15 seconds before you
> lose them (look at me for an example ;).  While a lot of us aren't on
> such old hardware as myself, I think a good portion of us...are.
> 
> - This is probably a solvable problem.  But, it's how we treat the
> sidebar.  If you go more than 2 or 3 levels into the tree in the Help
> tab, you need to stretch out the sidebar.  This is a nusance for the
> user.  Then when you make it wider, it's too big to be a sidebar, and at
> this point, arguably, deserves its own window or frame, not a sidebar.
> 
> So...I've said some pretty anti-Nautilus words.  I could be a jerk and
> go on, or I could propose some half-assed idea that PROBALBY won't ever
> be implimented.  I'll go for the later ;)
> 
> - I'd really like to see ghb2 be released.  I'm sure Greg is dying here.
> Seriously though.  From what I can tell, ghb ISN'T a big piece of code.
> It seems to be basically a window with HTML rendering widgets.  I like
> this idea.  Why don't we make a BASIC help browser.  Or how about lets
> take a que from Apple Computers?  It's its own application.  It'll open
> up in its own window.  It'll have its own searching, categorization, doc
> viewer, etc.  Wana embed it in your application?  Good, it's all
> bonoboized.
> 
> Why do this?  We can do a help system...the right way.  We can probably
> design the UI ourselves (with input of course).  We can make it run on
> older and newer hardware alike.  We won't be bound to Nautilus or
> whatever other things are there.  The user not want help at all?  Great,
> don't install it AT ALL!
> 
> That's my opinion and what I'd dig :)
> 
> Kevin Breit
> 
> 
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