Re: Logger for libgda
- From: David Marín Carreño <davefx bigfoot com>
- To: Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo gnome-db org>
- Cc: Lista desarrollo ASPL Fact <aspl-fact-devel lists sourceforge net>, gnome-db-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: Logger for libgda
- Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 23:58:37 +0100 (CET)
On 27 Nov 2000, Rodrigo Moya wrote:
>
> > "undo" sql statement to the server. For this, you need to know the sql
> > dialect a server understands. I doubt, that this would be possible on
> > all providers (e.g. the mail provider lacks sql), however i think this
> > is a great idea. Possibly, it might work with the xml-query/reporting
> > feature of libgda/gnome-db in future, if the server has also implemented
> > this feature.
> >
> yes, this is one problem I hadn't thought before. How would you build the
> SQL (or whatever) command to make the undo? To do so, you'll be more or less
> simulating a transaction, as you'll have to store the data before executing
> the command.
>
> So, as I said before, I think the best solution for this is to simulate
> transactions in the providers that don't support them
Simulating transactions is a good idea, but n-level undoing goes
further...
The solution for this would be similar to the transactions in the
providers that don't support them: as no database managers support this
useful feature, what about simulating this feature in all providers?
>
> >
> > > Now, we are implementing this stuff in the client-side. But we want to
> > > program it in the server-side. And the problem is here: we want to
> > > continue using libgda for accessing the database. Thus, the logger should
> > > be transparent for gda...
> >
> > I don't think that enhancing the server code much would be a good solution.
> > I'm not that fit in bonobo-api, but i think the attempt should be started
> > on top of gda-server api, adding plugin possibilities.
> > Then, a plugin can directly call the gda-provider with plugin functions using
> > its oaf id.
> >
> > Depending on the server, a different sql dialect could be selected. A generic
> > SQL9x conform driver should be added as well, as most databases understand it.
> > Another possibility would be to add such a plugin for each server, but it
> > would be much more overhead in my opinion.
> >
> > > So we thought... why don't insert the logger into gda? We think that a
> > > logger module would be very useful for every program with database access.
> >
> > This is of course a great idea, but i think it should be separated into a
> > plugin so that components remain modular and flexible.
> >
> or in the client side. This will mean storing per-user logs, or if we
> really want it, in a central area (through GConf).
As I have already commented in another message, we are worried about
security: a client-side logger could be avoided by a modified client
program... A server-side logger couldn't be avoided by anyone.
greetings
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