Re: GUADEC

[Rodrigo Moya <rmoya tsai es>]

Chris Wiegand wrote:

> At 05:40 PM 3/20/00 +0100, Rodrigo Moya wrote:
> >Only one bad thing: I did not meet any gnome-db user. Some people had
> >tried to compile or install it without success (mainly libgnomeprint
> >problem we've had), but no 'real' users were there. But as there are
> >many people on the list, I assume you are all users, or not?
>
> The reason I'm on the list is because I'm working on a report engine, and
> originally I was thinking of integrating it into gnome-db. However, I
> re-thought this out, because of a few things:
>
> * Gnome is a BIG project, and I get intimidated with that sort of thing.

>
> * SQL isn't the best thing for everything (like CSV, XML, LDAP, Apache
> Logs, etc...)
>

We're starting now to implement a sort of XML queries to be used instead of
SQL when the underlying data source is not a SQL database. This will allow
access to CSV, XML, LDAP,...

> * I don't personally like Gnome programming too much. Way to many
> functions, IMHO. Does that mean I think it sucks? No, just that I'm not
> ready for it without an encyclopedia set of Gnome functions by my desk. I
> do think, however, that end users will use Gnome, or KDE, or whatever suits
> their fancy, which leads to...
>

I DO like GNOME programming a lot. I think it's very well done and documented.
But, yes I agree with you in that you need an encyclopedia, but have you tried
to download the docs in developer.gnome.org and have them on your system? or
Havoc's book?

>
> * I want to make this totally independant of a GUI. I decided this based on
> the reports that I do at my work. We have a server that runs all of the
> reports, and it has Muscle. So, my program will eventually have report
> designers for KDE, Gnome, etc...., a program to "run" the report in command
> line, Gnome (through gnome-db?), Katabase, etc... It will be able to use
> data sources from Katabase, Gnome-db, or libraries like mysql, etc..., and
> finally CSV (already written, although I want to improve it).
>

That's a point where gnome-db can't help you. We will be moving to non-GNOME
dependant providers and client lib as soon as OAF (the new GNOME Object
Activation Framework, which is X-independant) is released. But, for the
widgets, including gnome-db-report, you'll need the GUI. But it could also be
possible to write a report engine in the low-level.

>
> If I've offended anyone, please ignore this email and go about your day
> normally.
>

Not me, it's just your opinion.

Cheers