Re: accel should be _accel in UI XML files
- From: Kjartan Maraas <kmaraas online no>
- To: Owen Taylor <otaylor redhat com>
- Cc: Michael Meeks <michael helixcode com>, Darin Adler <darin eazel com>, Gnome Components <gnome-components-list gnome org>
- Subject: Re: accel should be _accel in UI XML files
- Date: 29 Oct 2000 19:32:53 -0100
>
> Michael Meeks <michael helixcode com> writes:
>
> > Hi Darin,
> >
> > On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, Darin Adler wrote:
> > > Keyboard accelerators have to be translated along with the wording of
> > > menu item. Some of them might stay the same, but some might have to
> > > change.
> >
> > Strange, I have never considered this before. Kjartan can you
> > verify whether we have translated K/B shortcuts before ?
> >
> > I just ran gmc in spanish and got:
> >
> > Cerrar Ventana Ctrl+W
> >
> > Hmm; so I suppose we could translate these, of course to a certain
> > extent we are helped by the _File accelerateor naming scheme that makes
> > menu navigation translatable.
> >
> > So; are foreign people just used to wierd keybindings ?
>
> We discussed this at some length in the context of GTK+, and the
> what everybody told us is that they _didn't_ want the accelerators
> translated. (Meaning hotkeys, not underline shortcuts for menu
> navigation)
>
> As I recall the rationals:
>
> - People are often quite familiar with the English accelerators,
> and apparently Windows doesn't translate accelerators.
>
> - Accelerators are often pretty arbitrary in English to begin with,
> dur to namespace limitations. To list the first 4 accelerators I can
> thing of
>
> C-x cut
> C-c copy
> C-v paste
> C-w close
> C-x quit
>
> Only C-c corresponds directly
>
I agree with Owen here. As long as we're only talking about
the examples above + a few other standard ones that are the
same across apps. I think the _Accel keys have to be translated
for obvious reasons (some letters might not be there in the
translated version). Is there a list of not-to-be-translated
keyboard shortcuts somewhere? If not maybe we need one?
Cheers
Kjartan
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