Re: Accessibility Summit for GNOME Boston?

[Willie Walker <William Walker Sun COM>]

Hi API:

Let's plan on an irc.gnome.org/#a11y IRC meeting this coming Monday at 
14:00UTC:

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=9&day=14&year=2009&hour=10&min=0&sec=0&p1=43

I'd like to talk about what we may do at GNOME Boston this year.

I think your suggestions are good. I'm going to tend to be very focused 
on having GNOME 3.0 end up being an accessibility success vs. a 
disaster.  Some of the top issues surrounding this are:

* New infrastructure -- D-Bus instead of CORBA.  The work needs to be
  completed, tested, and performance work probably needs to be done.  In
  addition, it may not be a drop in replacement but may require changes
  to existing implementations (e.g., OpenOffice might need to change
  some).

* New speech support -- SpeechDispatcher+ instead of gnome-speech.  We
  need to test this and integrate it into Orca and also make sure it
  works on all platforms.

* New magnification -- part of GNOME Shell instead of gnome-mag.  The
  work needs to get done, a D-Bus API needs to be written, it needs to
  be integrated with Orca, etc.

* Clutter/Mutter/GNOME Shell a11y -- where do AT-SPI implementations
  belong, where is a11y work needed, and who can do the work?

* WebKit a11y -- definitely an opportunity for Joanie and Xan to
  meet face-to-face and go over issues and give us a better picture
  for how to reach success.

This is a *LOT* of work.  The end result, however, should be worth it.

Will

Piñeiro wrote:
> From: Willie Walker <William Walker Sun COM>
>
> Hi,
>
> there is any advance about any accessibility summit on Boston? This
> seems that the proposal hasn't got much success, at least on this
> thread.
>
> Here in Igalia we have a little debate about people going to the
> Boston Summit. Most likely Xan Lopez will go to the Boston Summit, to
> hack about different aspects of Webkit-GTK+ (current status,
> integration with GNOME Shell and so on), so probably he will be open
> to talk about a11y as well.
>
> We are debating as well if would be interesting to go myself, to share
> some thoughts about Cally or other a11y themes. Li Yuan commented
> about atk-bridge and two toolkits. He likely was talking about GTK+
> and Qt, but there are similar issues here with Clutter and GTK+. In
> summary talk about and test points like:
>
>   * Multiple toolkits on desktop using the same bridge (GTK+ vs Qt,
>     GTK+ vs Clutter, etc)
>   * Current status of Mutter/GNOME Shell a11y
>      * How to use Cally in this task
>      * Current missing features
>      * Prioritize
>      * How to interact with GNOME Shell from a a11y POV (not just
>        automatic testing, apps like Orca and so on)
>
> Any one interested in this points? It will be any accessibility summit
> on Boston or it is discarded at this moment? How about the dates? In
> your original mail one of your points if the magnification on GNOME
> Shell, will any GNOME Shell folk appear at the hypothetical a11y
> summit?
>
> As you can figure of my questions, right now I'm not really sure about
> that, as I don't know if anyone is interested on these points, of just
> if the a11y summit is discarded.
>
> > Hi All:
> >
> > Who is interested in an accessibility summit for GNOME Boston this year?
> >
> > http://live.gnome.org/Boston2009 - October 10-12
> >
> > I have a scheduling conflict where I will only be able to attend Sunday 
> > and Monday (i.e., Saturday is out), but I think it might be great to get 
> > together to talk about things such as:
> >
> > 1) GNOME 3.0 goals:
> >     * Completing the AT-SPI/D-Bus work
> >     * Magnification work being rolled into GNOME Shell
> >     * Speech dispatcher
> >     * Testing testing testing
> >
> > 2) Organizing ourselves to help provide distributions feedback
> >     and help with the way they integrate accessibility
> >
> > 3) Revisiting our gaps and areas where people can get involved
> >
> > 4) Potential integration with other global organizations to promote
> >     and foster open source accessibility
> >
> > I'm also encouraging the desktop testing folks to get something together.
> >
> > Note that many of the above could be done via e-mail if necessary. 
> > Being able to get together for a hackfest or code sprint for 
> > AT-SPI/D-Bus, however, might be a very useful thing to do face-to-face.
> >
> > So...please let me know your thoughts,
> >
> > Will
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