Re: Close buttons in dialogs




On 24 Jul 2009, at 17:46, Eitan Isaacson wrote:

So I just changed my mind about this. Of course, this is as long as all
dialogs could consistently be dismissed with escape.

Welcome to another controversy :)

The GNOME UI guidelines say that Escape should only ever be bound to Cancel, and not to Close -- something we chose to inherit from the MS Windows guidelines. (Apple's guidelines are a bit more ambiguous.)

However, a few years ago, the gtk developers decided Esc should be bound to Cancel as well[1]. So today, if you press Escape without having paid too much attention to which buttons are actually present at the bottom of the dialog, any changes you made in the dialog may already have been saved, or may just have been discarded...

Cheeri,
Calum.

[1] Largely, IIRC, because there were quite a few complaints that Find dialogs didn't close when you pressed Escape. There were few if any complaints about any other dialogs, which suggested to me we needed to redesign the way Find dialogs worked in GNOME. But as things turned out, we never did, so the gtk developers took the initiative to solve the problem their way instead.

More background/disucssion to this at <http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101293 >



2009/7/24 Dorado Martínez, Francisco Javier <FDMA once es>

Hi all

Agree +1 Eitan's comment.

A person that can use a mouse and see the window buttons to close is
redundant the close button in the GUI, but if I was a beginner I don't know that there is these ways of closing this dialogs and less I don't know that
with esc, or alt +f4 I can close it.

Anyway, I always look for the close button when I finish a configuration. I always used the alt + f4 for closing applications, and esc for cancel (I
don't know why) :-).

Regards,

Javier

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De: gnome-accessibility-list-bounces gnome org [mailto:
gnome-accessibility-list-bounces gnome org] En nombre de Calum Benson
Enviado el: jueves, 23 de julio de 2009 18:14
Para: gnome-accessibility-list gnome org
Asunto: Close buttons in dialogs


Hi all,

One question I was asked at GUADEC this year was regarding the old
chestnut of Close buttons in the bottom corner of instant-apply
dialogs, which some designers (including Apple's, if you look at their
OS X system preference dialogs) consider to be an unpleasantly-
redundant feature.

One of the main areas of resistance to the removal of such buttons the
last time it was considered was feedback from assistive technology
users, who (albeit in an unscientific straw poll) expressed an overall preference for retaining the explicit Close button, in addition to the
window manager Close button and associated keyboard shortcut.

With GNOME 3.0 now just a couple of blocks away, if not quite around
the corner just yet, I was wondering if this is still the consensus?
Or have AT improvements or any other factors now reduced the need for
explicit Close buttons in instant-apply dialogs?

Thanks,
Calum.

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