Re: Fwd: Proposed module: empathy

I took a look at this today. Basically it is accessible, although there are some bugs. Please refer to and Also, the conversation history doesn't support caret mode. I remember pidgin has similar problem. Does Orca write a script to work around this?


Willie Walker wrote:
Hi All:

Has anyone here taken a look at empathy and how accessible it may be? The usual applies: 1) honoring theming, 2) keyboard traversal, 3) access via Orca, etc.


Begin forwarded message:

    *From: *Vincent Untz <vuntz gnome org>
    *Date: *July 27, 2008 6:31:16 PM EDT
    *To: *desktop-devel-list gnome org
    *Subject: Proposed module: empathy
    Proposal on d-d-l:

    License: GPLv2 or later (I believe)

    Short description:
    Empathy consists of a rich set of reusable instant messaging widgets,
    and a GNOME client using those widgets. It uses Telepathy and Nokia's
    Mission Control, and reuses Gossip's UI. The main goal is to permit
    desktop integration by providing libempathy and libempathy-gtk
    libraries. libempathy-gtk is a set of powerful widgets that can be
    embeded into any GNOME application.

    Requires new external dependencies:
    libtelepathy-glib and libmissioncontrol-client
    (libmissioncontrol-client will disappear during the next cycle)

    Summary so far:
    + (would be nice to get an overview of what has changed since 2.22
    proposal -- I believe Xavier will send something about this)
    + hosted on the GNOME infrastructure
    + following the GNOME release schedule
    + supported by many people, but a few -1 were sent too
    + lots of discussion about the licensing issues: people really want
    the libraries to be LGPL. See below for details/updates about this.
    + comments about bad support for IRC, but also feelings that this
    shouldn't block the inclusion.
    + no good documentation for the libraries (although see the updates

    Reminder of the 2.22 decision:
    - great goals
    - more work is needed to add some features, and make it a bit more
    stable (especially since people are used to something working very
    well for IM), and probably add a bit more integration if possible
    - (some people would really like the keyring to be used)
    - would really be great to fix the licensing for the libraries since,
    at some point, we might want to push the libraries in the platform
    - we encourage to propose it again for 2.24
    => reject

    Some update about those items (correct me if I'm wrong):
    + about features & stability: feedback is welcome. Xavier will
    probably send an update.
    + the keyring is now used (afaik).
    + I believe that the plan is to slowly move the empathy libraries
    telepathy and that code might get rewritten for this because of LGPL
    needs. "Only" a promise so far, though. This might mean we should
    only consider the empathy application for inclusion (and try to
    forget about libraries).


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