Re: Fwd: Proposed module: empathy
- From: Li Yuan <Li Yuan Sun COM>
- To: Willie Walker <William Walker Sun COM>
- Cc: GNOME Accessibility <gnome-accessibility-list gnome org>
- Subject: Re: Fwd: Proposed module: empathy
- Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:07:27 +0800
I took a look at this today. Basically it is accessible, although there
are some bugs. Please refer to
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=545282 and
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=545284. Also, the conversation
history doesn't support caret mode. I remember pidgin has similar
problem. Does Orca write a script to work around this?
Li
Willie Walker wrote:
Hi All:
Has anyone here taken a look at empathy and how accessible it may be?
The usual applies: 1) honoring theming, 2) keyboard traversal, 3)
access via Orca, etc.
Will
Begin forwarded message:
*From: *Vincent Untz <vuntz gnome org>
*Date: *July 27, 2008 6:31:16 PM EDT
*To: *desktop-devel-list gnome org
*Subject: Proposed module: empathy
*
Homepage: http://live.gnome.org/Empathy
svn/git/bzr/...: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/empathy/
Proposal on d-d-l:
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2008-March/msg00196.html
License: GPLv2 or later (I believe)
Short description:
==================
Empathy consists of a rich set of reusable instant messaging widgets,
and a GNOME client using those widgets. It uses Telepathy and Nokia's
Mission Control, and reuses Gossip's UI. The main goal is to permit
desktop integration by providing libempathy and libempathy-gtk
libraries. libempathy-gtk is a set of powerful widgets that can be
embeded into any GNOME application.
Requires new external dependencies:
===================================
libtelepathy-glib and libmissioncontrol-client
(libmissioncontrol-client will disappear during the next cycle)
Summary so far:
===============
+ (would be nice to get an overview of what has changed since 2.22
proposal -- I believe Xavier will send something about this)
+ hosted on the GNOME infrastructure
+ following the GNOME release schedule
+ supported by many people, but a few -1 were sent too
+ lots of discussion about the licensing issues: people really want
the libraries to be LGPL. See below for details/updates about this.
+ comments about bad support for IRC, but also feelings that this
shouldn't block the inclusion.
+ no good documentation for the libraries (although see the updates
below)
Reminder of the 2.22 decision:
==============================
- great goals
- more work is needed to add some features, and make it a bit more
stable (especially since people are used to something working very
well for IM), and probably add a bit more integration if possible
- (some people would really like the keyring to be used)
- would really be great to fix the licensing for the libraries since,
at some point, we might want to push the libraries in the platform
- we encourage to propose it again for 2.24
=> reject
Some update about those items (correct me if I'm wrong):
+ about features & stability: feedback is welcome. Xavier will
probably send an update.
+ the keyring is now used (afaik).
+ I believe that the plan is to slowly move the empathy libraries
into
telepathy and that code might get rewritten for this because of LGPL
needs. "Only" a promise so far, though. This might mean we should
only consider the empathy application for inclusion (and try to
forget about libraries).
Vincent
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