Re: eSpeak support in Orca -- what is the best way?
- From: Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt csir co za>
- To: Henrik Nilsen Omma <henrik ubuntu com>
- Cc: Gilles Casse <gcasse oralux org>, "gnome-accessibility-list gnome org" <gnome-accessibility-list gnome org>
- Subject: Re: eSpeak support in Orca -- what is the best way?
- Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 14:22:15 +0200 (SAST)
Hi,
For a live cd, I think you would not find a smaller synth that is clear
enough to be understood the first time around than Espeak.
Espeak has indexing, pitch/volume/rate selection and some support for
punctuation speaking.
One advantage of using speech-dispatcher, is that one can run speakup and
orca on the same machine without the two fighting about access to the
sound card.
Now that espeak has an API, one should be able to make a better
speech-dispatcher module for it. I think some work has been done on that.
Is Espeak included in Ubuntu?
Regards, Willem
On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've been working with Gilles Casse of Oralux on a spec for better
> multilingual speech support in Ubuntu, and as it happens, the crux comes
> down to support for eSpeak in Orca. Let me explain ...
>
> The aim of the MultilingualSpeechSynthesis spec is to extend our current
> provision to synthesised speech in multiple languages right on the CD.
> That is not possible with Festival because the voices are too big, but
> should be possible with eSpeak. See:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Specs/MultilingualSpeechSynthesis
>
> We also plan to improve the speakup support on default systems and Live
> CDs using eSpeak, which fits in well with the added language support.
> However, the main focus of the Live CD is still going to be the Gnome
> GUI. So we have to support both interfaces, and we want to do it with
> the same speech synth to avoid duplication.
>
> But we won't move the Live CD from Festival to eSpeak until we are
> confident that there is good support for eSpeak with Orca. (btw, many
> people will still prefer Festival or other synths and we should have
> good support for those and make sure installing and setting up is easy)
>
> I know I'm probably stirring up a old debate when I ask what the best
> way to do that is. I guess there are two options:
>
> * Write a gnome-speech driver for eSpeak -- How much work is involved
> with this? Gilles says he is willing to start on this.
> * Speech Dispacher support for Orca -- I know there have been issues
> raised about this before. Some missing features are mentioned here:
> http://live.gnome.org/Orca/SpeechDispatcher
>
> -- Using the Orca -> gnome-speech -> SpeechDispatcher -> eSpeak chain is
> not really an option for a stable release I think.
>
> I'm not really technically qualified to have a firm opinion about which
> route is best or easier to implement. I simply note that a solution is a
> prerequisite for the multilingual Live CD and the enhanced speakup
> support. In principle I'm a fan of the speech dispatcher approach
> because I feel it open up more options for the future such as Orca
> running on KDE, but if the missing features there mean holding up a spec
> like multilingual support for a cycle or more then I'd like to consider
> alternatives.
>
> I've made a spec describing what we need and briefly mention the two
> options.
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Specs/OrcaEspeak
>
> Another question is whether eSpeak itself is feature complete enough
> (does not support asynchronous calls ATM AFAIK), but this is mediated
> by the ability to install Festival or something else post-install. I do
> wonder how the user community would react to a sudden switch of default
> synth though. Thoughts?
>
> Discuss :)
>
>
> Henrik
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