Re: Gnopernicus under 2.8, and thoughts

[Kenny Hitt <kenny hittsjunk net>]

Hi.  Not all of Gnome 2.8 has made it into unstable yet.  Also, there
are changes, so you will want to do a dist-upgrade to make sure you get
everything.  I don't have a list of what has or hasn't been upgraded
yet.  I've just been watching the packages that get upgraded over the
last few days.  For example, my at-spi was upgraded this morning, but my
atk was upgraded 2 days ago.
Until things settle down, I wouldn't report any problems with
accessibility with Debian's gnome.  Of course, if you build all your
Gnome from source, that would be different.

Hope this helps.
         Kenny

On Sun, Nov 21, 2004 at 11:16:18PM -0600, Nolan J. Darilek wrote:
> Once again I'm playing with the GNOME accessibility software, and I'm
> having issues. Today I snagged lots of GNOME 2.8 from Debian
> unstable. I didn't do a dist-upgrade, so it's possible that there are
> bits of 2.6 lingering, but if there are then I'm not aware of
> them. I'm having major issues reviewing the screen,
> though. Specifically, flat review mode might work, or it might
> not. Sometimes I can enter flat review mode and review a portion of
> the screen, then gnopernicus switches to focus-tracking mode without
> my having asked it to do so. Sometimes I can't enter review mode
> because Gnopernicus instantly switches back to focus-tracking. It's
> the same in layer 0. I'll hit a boundary, moving too high or too far
> to the right and,, instead of announcing "no next," gnopernicus
> instantly moves the review focus back to where I began.
> 
> I'm not sure if this is a bug, or if it's due to an outdated
> library. Again, I'm running GNOME 2.8. Gnopernicus is a CVS checkout
> as of this morning, though I've also experienced this issue with
> 0.84. I also have the latest CVS checkout of at-spi, as login-helper
> isn't included in the version packaged with Debian.
> 
> Is this a gnopernicus bug, or is it likely caused by having an older
> version of some library which I'm not aware of not having upgraded?
> 
> Also, I have a question about the future of GNOME accessibility and
> Gnopernicus. I was off-list for a few months and, upon browsing
> through recent archives, noticed discussion about Gnopernicus, Orca
> and scripting. Specifically, someone was asking if scripting would be
> included in Gnopernicus.
> 
> Out of curiosity, is this in Gnopernicus' future, or is Orca intended
> to become a fully-functional, competing screen reader? I was under the
> impression that Orca was intended as a test to explore how scripting
> accessibility might work in Python, but are there plans to make it
> more?
> 
> I think that scripted accessibility is an excellent idea and an
> important feature. I wonder, though, if final products should/will be
> scripting language agnostic, thus allowing me to script in Python,
> Ruby, Perl or whichever language I might choose?
> 
> Just some thoughts. I realize that the realization of these ideas is
> still far off, but I thought I'd ask and toss them out regardless.
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