Re: I need a computer with a friendly Unix-based user operatingsystem!
- From: "Tom and Esther Ward" <tward1978 earthlink net>
- To: "Peter Korn" <Peter Korn Sun COM>
- Cc: gnome-accessibility-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: I need a computer with a friendly Unix-based user operatingsystem!
- Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 23:12:58 -0400
I don't believe that "Math Type 4" and "Scientific Notebook" are such
It's important to note often these programs have huge accessibility issues
no matter what platform/operating system and screen reader is used.
When I was at WSU in my CS courses I had to use Scientific Notebook with
Jaws and the program was very hard to work with then.
I also don't believe they have a Linux port of those apps. I know of Mac OS
and Windows ports but do not know of Linux ports.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Korn" <Peter Korn Sun COM>
To: "ELLIOTT, TIMOTHY" <tielliot umflint edu>
Cc: "Laporte, Leo" <webmaster leoville com>; "Norcross, James"
<norcross umflint edu>; "GNOME Accessibility"
<gnome-accessibility-list gnome org>; "Grandma Judy" <knitist juno com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: I need a computer with a friendly Unix-based user
> Hi Tim,
> As Tom & Esther Ward note in their separate reply, accessibility in GNOME
> still in development. The GNOME On-screen keyboard is actually pretty
> at this point, and I as a person who is comfortable with cutting-edge
> wouldn't hesitate to use it were I in need of it on a daily basis.
> You mention below three things though that give me pause. You say:
> 1. That you want both an on-screen keyboard *and* a screen reader.
> Are you looking to use both of these at the same time? Perhaps I
> might be able to give you better advice if I understood better the
> nature of your disability and access needs.
> 2. Using a Macintosh as the hardware platform. While Mac OS X is a
> UNIX OS, it doesn't use GNOME. Enterprising engineers have built
> GNU/Linux and GNOME from source for this hardware platform, but it
> isn't for the faint of heart. In fact, last week I saw Gnopernicus
> running on a Mac G4 laptop, but without speech working (he wasn't
> able to get that part right). I do not suggest this combination
> for anyone but a very competent and experienced engineer.
> 3. You say you want to use this with "Math Type 4", "Scientific
> and other similar software. The approach we are taking is a
> from the typical way accessibility has been done (though it is in
> the route that both Microsoft and Apple are taking in their next
> generation accessibility projects): applications must "opt-in" to
> accessibility. Unless the software you are using does this, it won't
> work with the screen reader and most of the functionality of the
> keyboard won't work. We've done much of the "opting-in" work already
> for the GTK+2 and Java/Swing graphical libraries (and the engineer I
> mentioned in #2 above is doing that work for KDE/Qt), so applications
> written using those libraries have a good chance of working. But
> I don't believe that "Math Type 4" and "Scientific Notebook" are such
> Peter Korn
> Sun Accessibility team
> ELLIOTT, TIMOTHY wrote:
> > Dear Sir My name is Tim Elliott. I am a third year student with
> > disabilities,attending the University of Michigan Flint majoring in
> > computer science. Michigan Rehabilitation Services(MRS) ( they are a
> > federal and state agency) purchased a Ultra Laptop Computer.
> > Model#N30W-14 with 500mgh and 128 megabytes of memory with 6 gigabytes
> > of hard drive space, four years ago for me to use. U of M is changing
> > over to a Unix-based operating system using iMac G4 computers. I am
> > requesting MRS to purchase me an Apple G4 Powerbook with Mac OS X
> > which is an Unix-based operating system. This computer would enable me
> > to run assistive software an on screen keyboard, screen reading, Math
> > Type 4, Scientific Notebook or similar software of these types., but
> > before they will purchase the computer , they need to find out if they
> > can download an Unix-based operating system off the Internet like
> > Linux and install on my laptop. They have spent 7 months in trying to
> > do this to no avail. What I want to know is, is this a practical
> > solution? Even if they find one on the Internet, would it run the
> > software I previously mentioned?
> > Please communicate with me asap because I need a computer with an user
> > friendly, Unix-based operating system by fall, when I go back to
> > school.
> > Sincerely Tim W Elliott
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