Re: 2.4 Proposed Modules - gok
- From: David Bolter <david bolter utoronto ca>
- To: Calum Benson <calum benson sun com>
- Cc: desktop-devel-list gnome org, gnome-accessibility-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: 2.4 Proposed Modules - gok
- Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 08:51:01 -0400
Calum Benson wrote:
I pleased to hear this level of understanding.
BTW I can think of at least one case where it still seems to be accepted
that color/hue/brightness... be used to convey information, and that is
showing what window is active. The title bar and border change color.
Now there are other ways to tell what window is active (window list,
occlusion etc.). but the changing of the colors, I think we would all
agree, increase "useability" dramatically. Usability and accessibility
are not so distinct in my mind.
On Thu, 2003-05-08 at 09:27, Murray Cumming Comneon com wrote:
Maybe I misunderstand, but I can't believe it would be OK for every GNOME
module to have a non-standard UI as long as they each had a "be normal"
It wouldn't be "OK", but some other core apps do already have a "use the
theme I already chose please" preference (gnome-terminal and gedit
spring to mind)... it's rightly turned on by default, though, so you
don't tend to notice it unless you need it.
Personally I'd feel warmer and fuzzier if it was turned on by default in
GOK too, but I'm prepared to accept that the benefits to the target
audience outweigh the non-GNOMEness in this case if Bill and Peter say
In the case of gok, I am not 100% confident that not conforming to the
chosen theme should be default, but I am definitely inclined to think
that the affordance if provides gok's target group is real.
Thanks for bringing this up. I agree with Bill that more tweaking could
be done. Perhaps the tweaking is not just in gok. Perhaps gok and
other accessibility tools could influence how we design theming in
GNOME? E.g. add primary, secondary, tertiary etc. colour
preferences... which GOK could then use... not to suggest this would
be an in-your-face setting. GOK could then also provide a way to set
these colors and update gconf accordingly... just thinking aloud after
a large coffee...
(However, things like the Preferences window could definitely use a lot
more HIG-loving... having a look at that has been on my todo list for a
wee while now.)
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