Re: Accessible Name

["Padraig O'Briain" <Padraig Obriain Sun COM>]

I just want to describe what I will do on this:

Currently there are three Gail implementations, where the accessible name is 
scavenged from a child or grandchild. These are GtkItem, GtkButton, and 
GtkStatusbar.

For each of these ATK objects the number of children will be reported as zero.

Padraig


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> Hi Padraig ,
> 
> > Is there a consenus on this?
> > 
> > If there is, I will update the document and make sure that the code reflects
> > this.
> > 
> > Is one consequence of this that AtkText interface will be implemented on
> > GailItem?
> > 
> > Does this mean that we do not need GailLabel at all?
> > 
> > Does this also apply to GailStatusbar, i.e. instead of exposing the label as 
a
> > child of GailStatusbar the text on the label will be the name of the
> > statusbar.
> 
> Yes, I think in virtually all cases (and perhaps all), we should hide label
> children/progeny and expose their label text as the AccessibleName of their
> appropriate ancestor.  This simplifies screen access logic dramatically, and
> makes for a clean separation of responsibility (what the widget/application 
must
> provide vs. the screen access product ferret out).
> 
> We may well want GailLabel however.  It depends upon how GtkLabel is used.  If
> it's ever used as a top-level bit of static text, then we definitely need
> GailLabel.  
> 
> 
> Peter Korn
> Sun Accessibiliy team
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> > > Padraig,
> > >
> > > The document may be incorrect-- we had several discussions about this, and
> > > I think we came to the conclusion that items, menu and list items,
> > > shouldn't have any children, but simply expose the text of their label as
> > > their name.
> > >
> > > Marc
> > >
> > > At 09:58 AM 5/23/2001 +0100, Padraig O'Briain wrote:
> > > >The ATK Widget implementation proposal at
> > > >http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gap/tech-docs/GTK-impl.html
> > > >contains proposal for Accessible Name.
> > > >
> > > >For instance for GtkItem we have
> > > >
> > > >If child widget is a label, the accessible name is considered to be the
> > > >text of
> > > >this label. Otherwise, the GtkItem widget is considered nameless.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >I would like to make sure we are as one on what this means.
> > > >
> > > >What effect will atk_object_set_name() have for a GailItem?
> > > >
> > > >Will it set the accessible name whoich then be returned by
> > > >atk_object_get_name()?
> > > >
> > > >Does the description above describe what will happen if 
atk_object_set_name()
> > > >has not been called?
> > > >
> > > >Padraig
> > > >
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