Re: [g-a-devel] No module anymore & perfect zoom feature
- From: Samuel Thibault <samuel thibault ens-lyon org>
- To: Emmanuele Bassi <ebassi gmail com>, GTK Devel List <gtk-devel-list gnome org>, gnome-accessibility-devel gnome org
- Subject: Re: [g-a-devel] No module anymore & perfect zoom feature
- Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 14:51:08 +0100
[Re-sending without the attached pictures, too big for the list]
Hello,
Emmanuele Bassi, on jeu. 01 mars 2018 14:42:27 +0700, wrote:
On 26 February 2018 at 17:49, Samuel Thibault
<samuel thibault ens-lyon org> wrote:
Hello,
So, I also saw the removal of generic modules.
Unfortunately we currently need it for implementing perfect zoom feature
:)
I don't know what a "perfect zoom feature" is —
Please compare the two examples on
https://people.debian.org/~sthibault/zoom-gimp.png
https://people.debian.org/~sthibault/zoom-perfect.png
zoom-gimp.png is the kind of zoom you can get with state-of-the-art
zooming heuristics. zoom-perfect.png is simply obtained by getting gtk
to redraw the window into a bigger pixmap.
but zooming on a window should be part of the display server.
The display server can not invent information, at best it could
achieve the zoom-gimp.png result, which is really not enough for
visually-impaired people. Here I have only magnified a couple of times,
people quite often request for 10x-30x magnification.
Also, the control on zooming should really not implemented in the
server. Usually you'll also want color inversion or mangling, adding
position hints etc. I don't think freedesktop people will be happy to
see that added to the display server, so an external solution is needed,
currently implemented in Compiz (but lacking access to re-rendering on a
bigger pixmap).
Having said that, we do have a magnifier inside GTK, used by the
Inspector. We could make that feature public, and improve it.
Interesting. Having mentioned adding the feature to AT-SPI, I'm
however interested in putting the interface there, so that not only GTK
application can benefit from it, but also Qt, etc. and GTK can just plug
its support into AT-SPI.
We definitely do not want to let people inject code into running applications.
Ok :)
Samuel
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