Re: [g-a-devel] What can we do to help gnome-accessibility



On 11/11/2011 08:34 AM, David Sexton wrote:
Good morning

Hi David, comments inline.


I am looking for information on what is most needed to improve gnome accessibility. More programmers? More funds? More user feedback? Etc.

All of that ;)

I am blind and currently using orca and mac. I guess I would describe myself as someone who writes small scripts to get jobs done, but certainly not a software engineer. I generally prefer the command line over GUI, but GUI is really necessary for internet and word processing. Of course, I'd love it more if orca/gnome were as rock-solid as the command line.

If you are interested in orca, probably you would be also interested in orca and orca-dev lists (although probably you already know about it):

https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-devel-list


I am the IT manager at the International Institute for Social Entrepreneurs in Kerala, South India. www.bwb-iise.org 
We take motivated and talented individuals from all over the world, mainly developing countries, who become active to create positive social change in their communities. 
About half of our participants are blind or have other disabilities. We use mainly Ubuntu.

FYI, although probably you already know, there is a ubuntu accessibility list:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-accessibility


We have a few things we can offer gnome accessibility:

- User feedback. We could install latest builds and provide regular feedback.

Anyway, as this is a GNOME mailing lists, we would be more interested on GNOME 3.X feedback. Take into account that some distros are still in the process of moving to GNOME 3.

- Fund raising. We are connected to quite a few donors who are generally interested in making a considerate impact in the developing world.
Completely accessible gnome would enable many people to have access to computers.

In that case it would be good if you contact GNOME Foundation. The a11y team is in the process of update the GNOME accessibility roadmap:
https://live.gnome.org/Accessibility/Roadmap

So any item listed there are suitable to be funded.

- Since the next IISE course will only start in July 2012, our campus could be used during the period from mid december to mid June. 
We are planning on hosting a few hackfests to improve accessibility of software and create new software. 
We would love to work on anything gnome accessibility has for us.
I can definitely get several college hackers together.

In that sense I can think on different ways to start to collaborate:

* Take a look to Orca "How Can I Help" page:
https://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp

* Other starting task could be "compile all the accessibility stack" using jhbuild:
https://live.gnome.org/Jhbuild
In that sense the basic pieces for the stack are at-spi2-core, at-spi2-atk, pyatspi2, orca, accerciser and then any application toolkit compatible with that stack, for example gtk.

* Related with the feedback, and in order to get familiar with the code and some of the present issues, you could also take a look to these links:
https://live.gnome.org/Accessibility/ThreePointFour/Regressions
https://live.gnome.org/Accessibility/ThreePointFour/Issues#Other_GNOME_Modules


Maybe some programmers from the company "UST global" as well. 
I guess what I need to know, is how to get them up to speed on gnome and gnome accessibility itself. 
Myself, I know a bit of python, but nothing at all about how accessibility is structured…

If there's not currently a way to employ people directly through gnome then It could be that we hire some programmers specifically to work on gnome accessibility… So if you're experienced in this area and want to work in India, let us know.
From our viewpoint, we are annoyed that accessibility is almost there, but not quite good enough to prevent our participants from returning home and most likely be forced to use illegal copies of windows and accessibility software. So our thought is: what can we do to get gnome and gnome-orca to work as well as windows and mac solutions.
On behalf of all of our visually impaired participants as well as all of them around the world I want to say THanks very much for your interest, ideas, suggestions and feedback!

Thanks for your interest, I hope you heard about you again soon.

Best regards.

-- 
Alejandro Piñeiro Iglesias


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