Re: [g-a-devel]Proposed implementation agnostic GNOME Speech API.

[Peter Korn <Peter Korn Sun COM>]

Hi Scott,

> If you would like Peter I can produce those in html form.  Maybe it
> would be best to post both.

By all means.  Happy to have your contributions.


Peter Korn
Sun Accessibility team

> On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Mike Pedersen wrote:
>
>
> > Hi Peter, if these are going to be uploaded and made generally available I'd
> > like to suggest that it be in html as opposed to PDF.  I don't know how most
> > blind people feel but for me PDF is pretty low on my list of favorite
> > document formats.
> > Thoughts?
> > regards
> > Mike Pedersen
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gnome-accessibility-devel-admin gnome org
> > [mailto:gnome-accessibility-devel-admin gnome org] On Behalf Of Peter Korn
> > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 4:55 PM
> > To: n7zib bresnan net
> > Cc: gnome-accessibility-devel gnome org; Rich Burridge
> > Subject: Re: [g-a-devel]Proposed implementation agnostic GNOME Speech API.
> >
> >
> > Hi Scott,
> >
> > Limiting distribution to gnome-accessibility-devel given the attachments.
> > Please find two PDF documents, each one is a single page containing a cheat
> > sheet for 4 of the Gnopernicus layers.
> >
> > Remus - do ya think we could put these on www.baum.ro/gnopernicus.html
> > somewhere?
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Peter Korn
> > Sun Accessibility team
> >
> >
> > Scott Berry wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Peter,
> > >
> > > Yeah that would be great if you could pass along your cheat sheet
> > > please.  Also what software is Gnopernicus working with right now?  I
> > > notice Mozilla isn't one of them.On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Peter Korn
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Scott,
> > > >
> > > > Scott Berry wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I also have a question here.  Why is it that Gnopernicus uses such a
> > > > > complicated layer of keys.  Being new to the program it makes it
> > > > > quite difficult to use.  I wonder if this could be changed?
> > > >
> > > > Gnopernicus is in many ways three different apps; or rather, it
> > > > supports three different output modalities of which any two (or
> > > > perhaps just a single
> > > > one) might be of use to any given individual: e.g. speech + Braille, or
> > > > magnification + speech.
> > > >
> > > > As there are so many commands that a user might want to issue
> > > > immediately to change things (e.g. speech rate, magnification size),
> > > > Gnopernicus would group related commands together on the keypad.  In
> > > > this way a speech user might live on keypad layer 8 for much of the
> > > > time, a magnification user on layer #1 or #2.
> > > >
> > > > The alternatives are:
> > > >
> > > > 1. have far fewer commands available by default
> > > > 2. use Ctrl/Shift/Alt-keypad combinations instead of layers  3. use
> > > > Function keys or them main keyboard with Ctrl/Shift/Alt combinations
> > > >
> > > > Of these, I think really only option #2 is worth considering.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I do think it would be very helpful to have better documentation of
> > > > the keypad keys.  I've cribbed up a cheat sheet for myself (a horribly
> > > > inaccessable PDF document), that also is also out of date.  I'd be
> > > > happy to share it, though being in graphical and basically inaccesible
> > > > document, it wouldn't be of particular use to the core audience of
> > > > this software.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Peter Korn
> > > > Sun Accessibility team
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 12 Dec 2003,
> > > > > Rich Burridge wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Marc Mulcahy asked my to announce something I've been working on
> > > > > > over the last few weeks, and get feedback from the community on.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've filed bug #129205
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129205
> > > > > >
> > > > > > to capture this work.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In short, I've created an implementation agnostic set of wrappers
> > > > > > for the existing GNOME Speech v0.2.X API that used GObject. It hides
> > > > > > the existing Bonobo/ORBit2 implementation under the covers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is a test application included in one of the two attachments
> > > > > > to the bug.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If accepted, it's planned that the Bonobo/ORBit2 API would continue
> > > > > > to be provided (but deprecated).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've also rewritten the speech related code in gnopernicus to use
> > > > > > this new API, but I haven't attached that work yet, until the
> > > > > > community feel that this is a good thing to do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know the API/ABI freeze for GNOME 2.5/6 has already happened, so
> > > > > > this is something we'd like to consider for GNOME 2.7/8.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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