RE: [g-a-devel]Proposed implementation agnostic GNOME Speech API.



Hi Peter, if these are going to be uploaded and made generally available I'd
like to suggest that it be in html as opposed to PDF.  I don't know how most
blind people feel but for me PDF is pretty low on my list of favorite
document formats.  
Thoughts?
regards
Mike Pedersen 

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From: gnome-accessibility-devel-admin gnome org
[mailto:gnome-accessibility-devel-admin gnome org] On Behalf Of Peter Korn
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 4:55 PM
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Cc: gnome-accessibility-devel gnome org; Rich Burridge
Subject: Re: [g-a-devel]Proposed implementation agnostic GNOME Speech API.


Hi Scott,

Limiting distribution to gnome-accessibility-devel given the attachments. 
Please find two PDF documents, each one is a single page containing a cheat 
sheet for 4 of the Gnopernicus layers.

Remus - do ya think we could put these on www.baum.ro/gnopernicus.html 
somewhere?


Regards,

Peter Korn
Sun Accessibility team


Scott Berry wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> 
> Yeah that would be great if you could pass along your cheat sheet 
> please.  Also what software is Gnopernicus working with right now?  I 
> notice Mozilla isn't one of them.On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Peter Korn 
> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Hi Scott,
>>
>>Scott Berry wrote:
>>
>>>I also have a question here.  Why is it that Gnopernicus uses such a 
>>>complicated layer of keys.  Being new to the program it makes it 
>>>quite difficult to use.  I wonder if this could be changed?
>>
>>Gnopernicus is in many ways three different apps; or rather, it 
>>supports three different output modalities of which any two (or 
>>perhaps just a single
>>one) might be of use to any given individual: e.g. speech + Braille, or
>>magnification + speech.
>>
>>As there are so many commands that a user might want to issue 
>>immediately to change things (e.g. speech rate, magnification size), 
>>Gnopernicus would group related commands together on the keypad.  In 
>>this way a speech user might live on keypad layer 8 for much of the 
>>time, a magnification user on layer #1 or #2.
>>
>>The alternatives are:
>>
>>  1. have far fewer commands available by default
>>  2. use Ctrl/Shift/Alt-keypad combinations instead of layers  3. use 
>> Function keys or them main keyboard with Ctrl/Shift/Alt combinations
>>
>>Of these, I think really only option #2 is worth considering.
>>
>>
>>I do think it would be very helpful to have better documentation of 
>>the keypad keys.  I've cribbed up a cheat sheet for myself (a horribly 
>>inaccessable PDF document), that also is also out of date.  I'd be 
>>happy to share it, though being in graphical and basically inaccesible 
>>document, it wouldn't be of particular use to the core audience of 
>>this software.
>>
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Peter Korn
>>Sun Accessibility team
>>
>>
>>>On Fri, 12 Dec 2003,
>>>Rich Burridge wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>Marc Mulcahy asked my to announce something I've been working on 
>>>>over the last few weeks, and get feedback from the community on.
>>>>
>>>>I've filed bug #129205
>>>>
>>>> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129205
>>>>
>>>>to capture this work.
>>>>
>>>>In short, I've created an implementation agnostic set of wrappers 
>>>>for the existing GNOME Speech v0.2.X API that used GObject. It hides 
>>>>the existing Bonobo/ORBit2 implementation under the covers.
>>>>
>>>>There is a test application included in one of the two attachments 
>>>>to the bug.
>>>>
>>>>If accepted, it's planned that the Bonobo/ORBit2 API would continue 
>>>>to be provided (but deprecated).
>>>>
>>>>I've also rewritten the speech related code in gnopernicus to use 
>>>>this new API, but I haven't attached that work yet, until the 
>>>>community feel that this is a good thing to do.
>>>>
>>>>I know the API/ABI freeze for GNOME 2.5/6 has already happened, so 
>>>>this is something we'd like to consider for GNOME 2.7/8.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
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