Re: [gnome-love] GNOME user environment brainstorming

[Sander Vesik <Sander Vesik Sun COM>]

On 24 May 2001, Havoc Pennington wrote:

> 
> Alan <alan ufies org> writes: 
> > <Dumb user mode on>
> > What's a window manager?
> > </Dumb user mode off>
> > 
> > Seriously though, why should we make a distinction?  In the GUI world that 90%
> > of the world is used to (that'd be the other 90%, not a lot of *nix people
> > here) there is no such thing as a window manager, and some keys (such as
> > printscreen) are global. 
> 
> I think the point is just where should we implement it. FWIW jrb
> appears to be adding it to the panel. 
> 
> > *I* understand the difference, but do you want to have to explain to your
> > granny why the key to take a screenshot is under the heading "window
> > manager"?
> >  I think not :)  For this (and a couple of other "global" keys) I'd
> > almost say have a "key setup" entry that would be similar in purpose as the
> > sawfish "shortcuts" configuration, where you can set ALT-m to minimize
> > window, ALT-F4 to close, PrtScn to screenshot, etc.
> 
> I agree that the global keybindings control panel needs to somehow
> merge both panel and WM keys.
> 
> (Though I'm not sure the users who don't know about the WM want to
> configure keybindings anyhow, so not sure how high-priority this is;
> just turn off the keybindings prefs dialogs except at advanced user
> level.)
> 

I'm afraid it's not as simple as that. If GNOME as an environment provides
some set of keybindings, these shouldn't IMHO go away just because I got
fed up with sawfish and switched to using E (or vice versa). In fact
'being configurable from GNOME' probably counts as providing.

The reverse is a bad violation of POLA...

>
> Havoc
> 

	Sander

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