Re: [Gimp-web] [Gimp-developer] Gitlab as a replacement for registry.gimp.org
- From: "Joao S. O. Bueno" <gwidion gmail com>
- To: Pat David <patdavid gmail com>
- Cc: gimp-web-list <gimp-web-list gnome org>, gimp-developer <gimp-developer-list gnome org>
- Subject: Re: [Gimp-web] [Gimp-developer] Gitlab as a replacement for registry.gimp.org
- Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 17:52:14 -0300
An asset manager is undoubtedly something needed very badly -
There are some features that would be needed - which Jehan summarized quite
well in an e-mail sent about 2 years ago (I remember the date because I was just
back from Leipzig)
At first, I think requiring all assets to be in a git repository (git
uses URLs - no need
to require a specific provider) - would itself be overkill. So maybe,
just make content
'uploadable" might be enough. On the other hand, gitlab might provide
ownership and content meta-information in a way we would not need to
care about them -
just a system for one to enter a git (gitlab) URL and branch name - maybe
requiring certain information to be in the repository.
Curation of assets remains one of the hardest points - it might be a
_lot_ of _boring_ work -
and even somewhat dangerous - but still, I can imagine 2 categories of assets -
one endorsed by the "GIMP team" - - i.e. curated - with no dangerous
scripts/plug-ins,
and a "watch yourself" mode in which anything could be downloadable.
Either way- wathever is designed to register GIMO assets server side,
a Python program can be made, to
run as a GIMP plug-in, that would provide a search, download and
install interface for things
registered on the server side. This program is not a huge thing to do
and would effectively provide GIMP
with its own "asset-store".
Anyway - just to get the ball rolling -
I suppose this could be a topic with its own BoF session in London
On 1 April 2016 at 17:32, Pat David <patdavid gmail com> wrote:
Continuing on some discussions from irc...
Registry.gimp.org is down for the count.
I was thinking recently about some ideas for a possible replacement.
Mostly thinking along the lines of what made the registry work well for
folks.
In the rest of this email, I'll use the term "asset(s)" to refer to things
like plug-ins, scripts, or brushes/gradients/curves/other assets.
Some essential functionality based on the old registry drupal instance:
1. Upload/Download assets for GIMP.
2. Describe the asset (usually by the uploader).
3. Comment on the assets.
This was handled previously by using drupal, which treated each entry as a
post/node that included the ability to upload files, write about the files
as a post, and had comment threads below it.
Keeping this functionality would be good, I think. The ability to post an
asset is a given, but the ability to interact around it helps foster the
community (and provides nice feedback for the authors).
From those thoughts, what would be nice to have in a replacement:
1. Provide at least the same previous functionality (as listed above).
2. Managed or easier to manage and keep updated.
3. Easier account management.
4. Collaborative environment for shared assets
5. Support possible GIMP integration in the future (one-click asset
install?).
GitLab?
======
Initially, I had thought Github might be a good option for this but given
its closed-source nature decided to investigate something like GitLab
instead.
I like this idea personally due to some nice infrastructure:
1. The service is hosted + managed (and available as Free Software just in
case we felt we needed to break out and host it ourselves).
2. The service integrates OAuth sign-in using a few different account types
(lowers barrier to entry to participate).
a. they use accounts, Google, Twitter, Github, or bitbucket accounts
for sign-in.
3. Projects maintain all the git-goodness for control and tracking
4. Projects created as a git project can have a full description/README
along with issue tracking integrated in the site
So, we can fulfill the original registry functionality and get the added
benefit of a git infrastructure for those wanting to contribute, user
accounts using OAuth to make it easy to participate, and the ability to do
some interesting things (git submodules).
In speaking with Jehan about this, we should also consider what might be
needed to support the ability to install assets from within GIMP in the
future easily.
Organization
=========
Jehan suggested that each script/plugin/asset have it's own git repo.
This would be handy, particularly if script authors did this as well (as it
considerably eases the inclusion of external repos as submodules).
However, akk points out that many folks don't (won't?) organize their repos
in this way (it gets a little... unwieldy pretty quickly if you have many
scripts).
I'd like some input on what would make the most sense or work best for
possible organization of repos.
I was also thinking that we could include some simple metadata in both any
script files and the README.md files as a means to possibly help parsing
relevant information for automated inclusion at a later date (GIMP plug-ins
installer type of idea).
Curation
======
Initially I was thinking that curating the scripts for inclusion would be
important. It's certainly possible for a smaller subset of all of the
available scripts from the registry now to pick out ones that we use and
check that they're not malicious and properly tagged/included. For
instance, there's a handful of scripts that I personally find myself using
often and can help validate/curate for inclusion. I don't mind doing more
as needed.
I just wanted to get a discussion started about how we might consider
moving forward on something like this. I think the scripts/plug-ins are
important enough to users that it would be good to try and get something up
and running soon.
I have started experimenting with including submodules from other author
repos and how it might look here:
https://gitlab.com/GIMP/GIMP-Scripts/tree/master
I look forward to hearing some thoughts on this!
pat
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Pat David
https://pixls.us
http://blog.patdavid.net
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