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Re: [Gimp-user] Darcy...Important.......gimp-user-list Digest, Vol 74, Issue 24

this does not help me make Account on Gimp....any help at all please
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On 2017-11-27 07:00, gimp-user-list-request gnome org wrote:


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Today's Topics:

1. Re:  Microsoft on-screen keyboard doesn't work with gimp 2.8
(Jehan Pag?s)
2. Re:  Microsoft on-screen keyboard doesn't work with gimp 2.8
(Richard)
3.  Outdated babl {SHA1SUMS,SHA256SUMS} (Jeremy Henty)

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2017 00:19:41 +0100
From: Jehan Pag?s <jehan marmottard gmail com>
To: stephen burton <steveburtonx yahoo co uk>
Cc: "gimp-user-list gnome org" <gimp-user-list gnome org>
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Microsoft on-screen keyboard doesn't work
with gimp 2.8
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Hi!

On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 1:06 PM, stephen burton
<steveburtonx yahoo co uk> wrote: 


Thanks Jehan for helping me out. To be honest, I'm not a developer, merely
in newbe using gimp for a very short time. I didn't know about the GTK+
project. It looks very exciting, might not be a programmer I don't know how
to use it.


No problem, you don't have to be a developer to create with GIMP. ;-)
I am not proposing you to "use" GTK+. GIMP uses GTK+, not you. I was
just wondering if you also had other software which also use GTK+.
But if you don't know, it's ok. Don't worry.


With the Microsoft on-screen keyboard what appears not to be working on the
simple modifier keys. For example I 't use control X. I have to use cut from
the edit menu. The Microsoft on-screen keyboard so works with any text
field, for example I can enter a file name, but when a save it I can't use
CONTROL C to save it. I can't use shift all the ALT key to modify a
selection.


I'm not sure how you mean your explanations. Are you saying for
instance that you want to use ctrl-x (with the on-screen keyboard) to
cut, but you currently can't, and you have to go through the menu? And
if so, why: doesn't the on-screen keyboard appear? Is it available,
but clicking control-x does not cut anything?
Some more details would be useful to understand the issues.

Usually the way to report bugs is doing step by step procedures, then
end with the expected result and actual result.
For instance, here is what it could be with the ctrl-x example (which
may be wrong regarding your issue since I'm not sure I understand what
you are saying).

Reproduction steps:
1/ Select part of an image.
2/ Hit ctrl + x in the on-screen keyboard

Expected result: the select piece of image should be cut.
Actual result: nothing happens.


I see you that there are a number of books referenced in the GTK + project
documentation. Do you know if there are reputable by a non-programmer mind?


No as I said above, you don't have to read books about GTK+. This is a
code library for programmers to make usage of. Don't bother with this.
I just wanted to know if other GTK+ program had the same issues you
were experiencing. And if so, it would probably mean the problem lies
in GTK+ code.


As you can imagine, to have to keep returning to the gimp menu for even
simple tasks is rather exhausting, especially because I work the mouse with
my nose.


I perfectly understand this. I hope we can find the reasons for your issue.
Just explain step by step what happens on your screen as explained
above. Assume that we don't know at all what you are seeing and what
you are expecting (which is the actual case), especially since most of
us don't have the need to use an on-screen keyboard as you do; and
moreover most developers of GIMP don't even use Windows as a daily OS.
So we don't really know what one who use Windows and an on-screen
keyboard expects.


Many thanks for listening.


You are welcome.

Steve
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From: Jehan Pag?s <jehan marmottard gmail com>
To: Ringbat <steveburtonx yahoo co uk>
Cc: "gimp-user-list gnome org" <gimp-user-list gnome org>
Sent: Sunday, 26 November 2017, 3:43
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Microsoft on-screen keyboard doesn't work with gimp
2.8

Hello!

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Ringbat via gimp-user-list
<gimp-user-list gnome org> wrote: Microsoft on screen keyboard doesn't seem to work using gimp. I use the
keyboard with a mouse due to my disability. I am working on a Windows 7
platform using gimp 2.8. Any ideas where I can go to get advice or better
still a workaround. I have tried at the on-screen keyboards , but I seem
to
get the same problem. 
Have you tried any other program using the GTK+ toolkit by any chance?
Do you have the same issue there?
Also what doesn't work exactly? The on-screen keyboard does not pop up
when your cursor enter a text field? It pops up but it won't write
into the field?

Jehan

Thanks for reading.

Ringbat

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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2017 17:44:26 +0000
From: Richard <strata_ranger hotmail com>
To: Jehan Pag?s <jehan marmottard gmail com>, Ringbat
    <steveburtonx yahoo co uk>
Cc: "gimp-user-list gnome org" <gimp-user-list gnome org>
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Microsoft on-screen keyboard doesn't work
    with gimp 2.8
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I gave it a test on my system (GIMP 2.8.22; Windows 10 64-bit, native
'Touch Keyboard' ) and witnessed the following:

- When a GUI control has the focus (e.g. text input box in any toolbox),
everything works normally.

- When the main image canvas/window has the focus, only *character* keys
seem to work; *navigation* keys (arrows, backspace) do not.  Spacebar
does not work either, and this one's kind of critical to have when
actually performing text entry.

- For the Text tool specifically, its on-canvas toolbox elements work
fine but general text entry has the above-mentioned problem (the lack of
a responding Spacebar renders the OSK practically worthless here).

- Keyboard shortcuts work normally (e.g. Ctwl+W to close active window,
P to switch to Paintbrush).  However, only Ctrl and/or Shift based
shortcuts work as the OSK does not feature an Alt key; you cannot, for
example, move between image tabs/windows with their default mappings.

For a comparison, I tested the OSK in Inkscape and could not find any
problems whatsoever, although the OSK does not include a row for
Function keys (used to switch tools).

On an aside, I noticed that when selecting certain tools via keyboard
(Perspective, Scale, Shear, etc.) they 'activate' (i.e. canvas overlay
and settings dialog appears) immediately and the dialog receives focus
(i.e. you cannot switch off the tool using keyboard).  This does not
happen when selecting tools via mouse -- is that a bug?  It can be
worked around quickly enough by cancelling the tool's dialogue but mind
that the OSK does not include an Esc key.

-- Stratadrake
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From: gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-bounces gnome org> on behalf of
Jehan Pag?s <jehan marmottard gmail com>
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 7:43:27 PM
To: Ringbat
Cc: gimp-user-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Microsoft on-screen keyboard doesn't work with
gimp 2.8

Hello!

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Ringbat via gimp-user-list
<gimp-user-list gnome org> wrote: 


Microsoft on screen keyboard doesn't seem to work using gimp. I use the
keyboard with a mouse due to my disability. I am working on a Windows 7
platform using gimp 2.8. Any ideas where I can go to get advice or better
still a workaround. I have tried at the on-screen keyboards , but I seem to
get the same problem.


Have you tried any other program using the GTK+ toolkit by any chance?
Do you have the same issue there?
Also what doesn't work exactly? The on-screen keyboard does not pop up
when your cursor enter a text field? It pops up but it won't write
into the field?

Jehan


Thanks for reading.

Ringbat

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2017 02:48:26 +0000
From: Jeremy Henty <onepoint starurchin org>
To: gimp-user-list gnome org
Subject: [Gimp-user] Outdated babl {SHA1SUMS,SHA256SUMS}
Message-ID: <20171127024826.GI23883@omphalos.singularity>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

These URLs return files that do not have checksums for
babl-0.1.38.tar.bz2:

    https://download.gimp.org/pub/babl/0.1/SHA1SUMS
    https://download.gimp.org/pub/babl/0.1/SHA256SUMS

Regards,

Jeremy Henty

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